Used Bench Drill Mk4 for sale (6,926)

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, The W25 table drill is a machine that combines power and precision. It is characterized by a solid, rigid structure, high efficiency and precision. The device is equipped with a swivel work table with adjustable height and threading functions with automatic change of the direction of spindle rotation. Machine description Threading function Automatic change of the direction of spindle rotation during threading Manual change of direction of rotation using a foot lever High spindle stiffness Setting the required drilling/tapping depth The drive is transmitted via a belt transmission Height-adjustable work table, tiltable from -45° (left) - +45° (right), with the ability to rotate 360° on the column The base is equipped with 14 mm wide T-slots The belt transmission cover is equipped with a safety limit switch Technical parameters Max. drilling diameter 25 mm Max. spindle quill extension 125 mm MK3 spindle cone Spindle speeds 290, 420, 740, 1260, 2150 rpm Distance of the spindle axis from the column 240 mm Column diameter 100mm Table dimensions 280x300 mm Base dimensions 590x375 mm Max. distance of the spindle tip to the table 367 mm Max. distance of spindle tip to base 630 mm Table rotation range in the horizontal axis ±45° Dcodjrif I Repfx Amgei Table rotation range around the column is 360° The diameter of the quills is 50mm Motor power 1100W / 400V Dimensions 800 x 400 x 1100mm Weight 165 kg Included B22 self-clamping drill chuck 5-20mm MK2 drill chuck shank

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, The CORMAK WS16 bench drill press is a compact yet exceptionally robust column drill designed for precise drilling and tapping operations in workshop and production environments. Thanks to the automatic spindle rotation reversal function, the machine enables efficient thread cutting in steel, making it an excellent solution for users who value productivity and machining quality. Key Advantages Built-in tapping function with automatic reverse rotation – simplified internal threading process High spindle rigidity – precise performance even under heavy load and when machining harder materials Solid construction made of seasoned cast iron – ensures operational stability and long service life Large spindle stroke – 100 mm – extended operating range, especially for deep-hole drilling Clear control panel – intuitive operation with quick parameter adjustment U-type spindle guard with limit switch – CE-compliant and enhanced operator safety 360° rotating worktable with mounting slots – flexible positioning and secure clamping of workpieces Dodpfx Amsrif S Rjgsci Design and Technology The CORMAK WS16 metal drill press is engineered with a focus on durability and structural rigidity. The head, column, base, and table are made from high-grade seasoned castings, ensuring excellent stiffness of the entire structure. The spindle and transmission shafts are manufactured from hardened, heat-treated steel to minimize wear during prolonged use. The drive mechanism is based on a belt transmission system, valued for its quiet and stable operation. Precision and Performance With 5-step spindle speed adjustment ranging from 480 to 1875 rpm and an MK2 Morse taper, the machine allows optimal parameter selection according to material type and drilling diameter. Maximum drilling capacity in steel: 16 mm Maximum tapping capacity in steel: M10 The clear control panel and the ability to switch spindle rotation direction significantly streamline operation while increasing overall efficiency. Applications The CORMAK WS16 column drill is ideal for: metalworking and mechanical workshops maintenance departments training workshops and educational centers single-piece and small-batch production applications requiring high repeatability and precision in drilling and tapping Standard Equipment Adjustable drill chuck with key (MK2 Morse taper) Drift key for taper removal Spindle guard with safety limit switch (CE compliant) Belt transmission cover with limit switch Technical Specifications Parameter Value Max. drilling diameter (steel) 16 mm Max. tapping diameter (steel) M10 Column diameter 70 mm Column wall thickness 12.7 mm Spindle stroke 100 mm Spindle–column distance 193 mm Spindle–table distance (max) 330 mm Spindle–base distance (max) 613 mm Spindle taper MK2 Speed range 480–1875 rpm Number of speeds 5 Table dimensions 265 × 285 mm Base dimensions 360 × 480 mm Machine height 1130 mm Motor power 1.1 kW Power supply 400 V Net weight 131.5 kg Machine dimensions 600 × 400 × 1150 mm

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, Thanks to its rigid structure, the drill ensures perfect drilling quality. The tilting table allows for a wide range of processing. The device is equipped with an electronic speed indicator and a drilling depth limiter. Machine description tilting table -45° to +45°, rigid machine structure, table with height adjustment using a toothed rack, three-arm lever, drilling depth limiter, electronic drilling speed indicator, laser pointer lighting of the working field Technical parameters MAXIMUM DRILLING DIAMETER 20mm RPM RANGE 190-2700 rpm POWER Djdpevzqrzofx Amgsci 230V SHANK HOLDER MK2 MAXIMUM SHAFT STROKE 120mm DISTANCE OF SHAFT FROM COLUMN 170mm DISTANCE OF SHANK FROM THE BASE 530mm RANGE OF ADJUSTMENT OF THE TABLE HEIGHT ON THE COLUMN 380mm COLUMN DIAMETER 70mm TABLE DIMENSIONS 280x280mm BASE DIMENSIONS 480x290 mm ENGINE POWER 750 W HEIGHT 1120 mm WEIGHT 66kg Manufacturer: Cormak

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, The CORMAK WS32 bench drill press is a robust and precise column drill for metal, designed for intensive operation in industrial and workshop environments. With high structural rigidity, an impressive spindle stroke, and tapping capability up to M24, this machine is a versatile tool for a wide range of machining applications. Key Advantages Tapping function – automatic reverse rotation enables safe and precise thread cutting 150 mm spindle stroke – allows deep-hole drilling without repositioning the workpiece High rigidity – 100 mm diameter column and stable cast iron base ensure excellent stiffness and vibration damping Belt drive system – five speed settings (280–1875 rpm) for precise speed adjustment to suit the material MK3 Morse taper – compatible with a wide range of drills and taps 360° rotating worktable – with T-slots, manually adjustable Enhanced safety – U-type spindle guard with limit switch and CE certification Design and Technology The CORMAK WS32 metal drill press is manufactured from high-quality seasoned cast iron, ensuring long-term durability and machining precision. The hardened spindle and transmission shafts are highly wear-resistant. A clear control panel and ergonomically arranged operating components improve operator comfort and ease of use. Precision and Performance Thanks to its heavy-duty construction and extended spindle travel, the WS32 ensures stable performance even in demanding applications. The ability to tap up to M24 makes it an ideal solution for machining heavy steel components. Dsdpsrif Udefx Amgjci Smooth spindle operation and a flexible speed range enhance both drilling and tapping efficiency. Applications The CORMAK WS32 column drill is designed for: machinery and metalworking industries metal fabrication and tool rooms maintenance departments technical schools and training centers The machine enables precise drilling, reaming, and tapping in steel, cast iron, and non-ferrous materials. Standard Equipment Keyed drill chuck Drift key for taper removal U-type spindle guard with safety limit switch Belt drive cover with safety switch Technical Specifications Parameter Value Max. drilling diameter (steel) 32 mm Max. tapping diameter (steel) M24 Column diameter 100 mm Column wall thickness 12.7 mm Spindle stroke 150 mm Spindle–column distance 265 mm Spindle–table distance 390 mm Spindle–base distance 745 mm Spindle taper MK3 Speed range 280, 400, 675, 1140, 1875 rpm Number of speeds 5 Table dimensions 380 × 400 mm Base dimensions 645 × 470 mm Machine height 1370 mm Motor power 1.1 kW Power supply 400 V Net weight 230 kg Overall dimensions 900 × 500 × 1400 mm

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, The WS20 table drill with a reinforced structure is a general-purpose drill for performing operations such as drilling, reaming, countersinking, threading (using special holders for tapping tools). Drills enable drilling and threading with multi-spindle holders. The drill is characterized by high efficiency, precision of operations, low noise level, wide range of rotational speeds, centralized control panel facilitating work on the machine and ease of use. Machine characteristics SPINDLE AUTOFEED High spindle stiffness Threading by automatic switching of left-hand rotation Left rotation switch The headstock, column, table and column base are made of the highest quality seasoned castings Dsdjrif T Djpfx Amgoci Spindle and gear shafts made of hardened and heat-treated steel High engine power Large spindle stroke Clear control panel U-type spindle cover with limit switch, CE compliant Manually lifted work table with 360° rotation and mounting grooves The belt transmission cover is equipped with a safety limit switch CE certificate Adjustable drill chuck with key and Morse cone mounting A wedge for knocking out a cone Technical data MAX. DRILLING DIAMETER IN STEEL 20mm MAX. THREADING DIAMETER IN STEEL M16 COLUMN DIAMETER 85mm SPINDLE TRAVEL 135mm SPINDLE-COLUMN DISTANCE 260mm MAX. SPINDLE-TABLE DISTANCE 366 mm MAX. SPINDLE-BASE DISTANCE 678mm SPINDLE MOUNTING MK2 ROTATION SPEED RANGE 280-1875 rpm NUMBER OF ROTATIONAL SPEEDS 5 TABLE DIMENSIONS 300 x 320 mm BASE DIMENSIONS 376 x 566 mm MACHINE HEIGHT 1245 mm ENGINE POWER 1.1 kW POWER 400V NET WEIGHT 179 kg DIMENSIONS 800 x 450 x 1250 mm Optional equipment cooling system

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, Workbench Column Drilling Machine CINCINNATI PE 32 Dcsdpfx Amjzg Hx Regsi Year of construction: 1997 Spindle: CM3 Spindle exit: 150 mm Spindle speed: from 100 to 3800 RPM Table travel X: 290 mm / Travel Y: 150 mm Speed variator by belt variator Maxi height base/spindle nose: 500 mm Mini height base/spindle nose: 260 mm Throat depth: 300 mm Spindle sleeve diameter: Ø 80 mm Equipped with one cross table dimensions: L 430 x W 240 mm Voltage: 380 V Width: 900 mm Depth: 1100 mm Total height on base: 2000 mm Weight: approx 400 kg

Condition: used, Workbench Column Drilling Machine FLOTT type 16 STG/R2 Spindle: CM2 Spindle exit: 100 mm Spindle speed: from 80 to 2000 RPM Table size: Length 340 mm x Width 280 mm Maxi distance spindle nose/table (lower table): 400 mm Djdpszg Hx Djfx Amgsci Throat depth: 240 mm 2 speed motor 2,2 kW Drilling/tapping function Adjustment by belt variator Electronic RPM speed not working Voltage: 380 V Width: 500 mm Depth800 mm Total height: 1100 mm Weight: approx 150 kg

Condition: good (used), Bench Foods 32VCUD 32 tray vertical dehydrator Stainless, adjustable temperature range from 15'c to 90'c plus an ambient air mode, timer controls, stainless mesh trays for even drying on both sides, mobile, 1Ph Dcsdjyziiwopfx Amgoi

Condition: good (used), Nagel Citoborma 280B Paper Drill This machine is 100% functional. It is one of the newest models. The drill table is adjustable in all directions (sides, front/back). It has stops for setting the drilling spacing. The installed table is an enlarged version. Additionally, the paper drill has an automatic table lock that releases after each cycle. Excellent condition. Solid construction – weight 76 kg. 380V power supply Two drilling heads with adjustable spacing from 45-120 mm. Drill diameter 2-20 mm. Stack height 60 mm. The machine has been serviced. Includes drills and tools, a new cutting stick, and an instruction manual. Dedpfxjzdazhe Amgoci

Condition: good (used), Nagel Citoborma 180 Paper Drill with Pedestal The machine is in 100% working order. Very good condition. Solid construction – weighs approximately 100 kg. This is one of the newest Citoborma drill models. 230V power supply. One drilling head. Drill diameter: 2-20 mm. Stack height: 60 mm. The drill table is adjustable in all directions (sides, front/back). Dcsdpfezdawvox Amgoi It has stops for setting the drilling spacing. In addition, the drill has an automatic table lock that releases after each cycle. The set includes drill bits, tools, a new cutting stick, and instructions.

Year of construction: 2002, condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Machine for straight cutting of aluminium and copper tubes. Dodpfx Aoyt Spcomgoci

Year of construction: 2002, condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Machine for cutting aluminium and copper pipes with the option for pipe end processing. Dodpfxjyt Sppj Amgsci

Condition: excellent (used), Double bench grinder Dcjdpfsk Iwx Esx Amgei

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1984, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,000 mm, spindle speed (max.): 3,000 rpm, controller model: DIXI CNC 4400, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range, X-axis: 1,000 mm Travel range, Y-axis: 1,000 mm Travel range, Z-axis: 1,000 mm Vertical movement with pallet changer (Y-axis): 880 mm Distance from spindle axis to top of table: 0 – 1,000 mm Distance from spindle axis to top of table with changer: 0 – 880 mm Table dimensions without changer: 840 x 1,000 mm Table dimensions with standard changer: 800 x 800 mm Max. table load: 2,000 kg Max. table load with pallet changer: 1,200 kg Table rotation: 360° continuous Rapid traverse: 1,500°/min T-slots: 7 equally spaced slots, width 18 H7 Tool interface: ISO 50 Spindle speeds: 8 – 3,000 rpm (in 3 ranges) Drive power: 11 kW Drive power with overload: 13.75 kW Max. torque: 200 kpm Working feed rates (X, Y, Z): 1 – 9,999 mm/min Rapid traverse (X, Y, Z): 9,999 mm/min Measuring system resolution: +/- 0.001 mm / 0.001° Positioning accuracy: 0.001 mm / 0.001° Distance from table axis to spindle flange: 390 mm to 1,390 mm MACHINE DETAILS Dcsdpfxezd Rizj Amgsi Control system: DIXI CNC 4400 Installed total power: 47 kW Compressed air requirement: 6 kg/cm² Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 4,835 x 4,160 x 3,190 mm Machine weight: approx. 17 t Compressed air requirement: 6 kg/cm²

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, power: 20 kW (27.19 HP), working width: 1,300 mm, number of spindles: 82, plate height: 90 mm, working length: 3,000 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Dcsdpfxozf Ibdj Amgei Working area X-axis: 3,000 mm Working area Y-axis: 1,300 mm Maximum panel thickness: 90 mm Total number of drilling spindles: 82 Drilling units – Unit 1 (top) Spindles for vertical drilling: 31 Spindles for horizontal drilling in the X direction: 8 Spindles for horizontal drilling in the Y direction: 2 Drilling units – Unit 2 (bottom) Spindles for vertical drilling: 31 Spindles for horizontal drilling in the X direction: 8 Spindles for horizontal drilling in the Y direction: 2 Milling spindles Number of milling spindles: 2 Milling spindles – Unit 1 (top) Number of controlled axes: 3 Motor power: 4.5 kW Milling spindles – Unit 2 (bottom) Number of controlled axes: 3 Motor power: 4.5 kW Routing units Number of routing units: 2 Routing units – Unit 1 (top) Unit: Fixed for creating channels in the X direction Max. tool diameter: 160 mm Motor power: 3.5 kW Routing units – Unit 2 (bottom) Unit: Fixed for creating channels in the X direction Max. tool diameter: 160 mm Motor power: 3.5 kW MACHINE DETAILS Total installed power: 20 kW Machine programming software: BIESSEWORKS EQUIPMENT Automatic panel stacking system with motorized transfer Barcode reader (manufacturer: SICK) CE marking Protective grid Safety mats The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition (“as is, where is”) based on photo documentation and technical/commercial documents with a descriptive character. The buyer has the right to inspect the goods before collection and assumes responsibility for the installation, securing, and use of the machine at the destination. External reference: 8565

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, Mollart Machine Tools 3 Axis, Knee Type Omnisprint Gun Drilling Machine with GE Fanuc Series 18 - M CNC Control, Twin Spindle Z Axis, Max Gun Drill size 22mm x 1000mm, FSE Swarf Management System with 1250l Oil Tank, Paper Roll Clarifier Filter and Swarf Conveyor, Fanuc Drill Spindle Motor. S/No. A270 - 0397 (1997). Country of Origin: United Kingdom Location: These lots are located in Gateshead, UK. Unfortunately there are no loading facilities on-site, dismantling and loading will be at the cost of the purchaser. All/Any tooling is being offered as specifically described. Dodpszi Tqlefx Amgeci

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2022, Specification: Vertical Drill Block with 13 Spindles Horizontal drill block with 4 spindles in the X Horizontal drill block with 2 spindles in the Y Grooving Saw D=100mm Plausibility check 10kw tool change spindle Dcedpfxszdki Ue Amgei 4 position tool changer Workpiece length max 200-3050mm Workpiece width 70-850mm Workpiece thickness 8-56mm Powertouch screen Woodwop for machine Energy Saving Mode

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, Ref:11045 . 2016 Dürselen PB 04 N Paper Drill Free standing 4 headed paper drill Equipped with: Four drilling heads with adjustable spacing. Pneumatic cooling and lubrication for drills. Automatic drilling cycle, foot pedal control. Waste directed to outer door Drill table with adjustment, front and side margins. Table lock is automatically released. Technical data: Diameter of the drill: 2-10 mm, Stack height: 60 mm. Dcodpfsx Nfp Ajx Amgsi

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, total length: 3,520 mm, total width: 1,180 mm, total height: 3,040 mm, Colour: White Empty weight: 1.440 kg - Year: 2015 - Documentation available: Yes - CE marking present: Yes - CE certificate present: Yes - Serial number: 966-09-2015 - Main motor power [kW]: 4.0 - Press drive: Hydraulic - Max. clamping width [mm]: 3000 - Max. clamping height [mm]: 2000 - Max. clamping depth [mm]: 135 - Number of cylinders [pcs]: 6 - Cylinder stroke [mm]: 160 - Number of counter-pressure cylinders [pcs]: 2 - Voltage [V]: 400 - Current consumption [A]: 9 - Fuse [A]: 16 - Power [kW]: 4.0 - Transport dimensions: 3520mm x 1183mm x 3047mm (l x w x h) Dsdpjzi Uynefx Amgsci - Transport weight [kg]: 1440kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Yorick Diebels

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, SHARPENING MACHINE Dsdpfx Ajzhplcjmgjci MOD. APE 40 UP TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: Sharpening diameter from 2 to 40 mm Right and left cutting edges from 1 to 12 Drill angle 40°-180° Horizontal wheel center electric spindle power 0.76 kW Vertical wheel center electric spindle power 0.18 kW Pump motor power 0.06 kW Approximate weight 230 kg Machine dimensions mm 1040 x 750 x 1330

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2015, total width: 1,800 mm, total length: 3,700 mm, total height: 4,300 mm, overall weight: 14,000 kg, Maximum drilling capacity in steel: 75 mm Length:3700mm Width:1800mm Height:4300mm Weight:14000kg Please Note: The information on this page has been obtained to the best of our ability and belief, and from the manufacturers where possible. It is given in good faith, but its accuracy can not be guaranteed. Accordingly, it will not form a representation or constitute contractual terms. We advise you to check any vital details! Dedpfx Aszi S Snomgsci

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2011, total width: 1,500 mm, total length: 3,000 mm, total height: 1,750 mm, Colour: White Empty weight: 450 kg - Year: 2011 - Documentation available: No - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 11060282 - Main motor power [kW]: 1.3 - Table length [mm]: 2000 - Table width [mm]: 520 - Max. drilling stroke [mm]: 60 - Number of spindles [pcs]: 27 - Spindle speed: Manual - Min. spindle speed [rpm]: 2820 - Max. spindle speed [rpm]: 2820 - Distance between spindles [mm]: 30 - Workpiece clamps [pcs]: 10 - Workpiece support/Guide: Traverses - Drills included: Yes - Voltage [V]: 400 - Current consumption [A]: 3 - Fuse [A]: 16 Dcsdpfx Amjzizqgogoi - Power [kW]: 1.5 - Transport dimensions: 3000mm x 1500mm x 1750mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 450kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Yorick Diebels

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 5,613 h, total height: 2,350 mm, total length: 4,300 mm, total width: 1,880 mm, Colour: Grey Empty weight: 1.310 kg - Year: 2016 - Documentation available: Yes - CE marking present: Yes - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: AB/226310 - Operating hours: 5613 - Main motor power [kW]: 5.5 Dcjdpfx Aszh Hkcsmgoi - Number of controlled axes [pcs]: 1 - Working range X [mm]: 3050 - Working range Y [mm]: 900 - Working range Z [mm]: 60 - Number of milling spindles [pcs]: 1 - Tool holder interface: ISO30 - Max. spindle speed [rpm]: 18000 - Horizontal drilling unit: Yes - Horizontal drilling spindles [pcs]: 6 - Max. drilling depth [mm]: 35 - Vertical drilling unit: Yes - Vertical drilling spindles [pcs]: 12 - Max. drilling depth [mm]: 60 - Manual operation: Yes - Control: SCM Xilog - Software: Xilog Plus - Saw unit present: Yes - Safety feature: - Spindle speed control: Continuously adjustable - Transport dimensions: 4300mm x 1880mm x 2350mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 1310kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Glenn Smeets

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1990, taper MK 3 serial number 4131 throat 1000 mm documentation ja clamping hydraulisch kW Dsdpfxezkbqvj Amgeci weight of the machine ca. 2,6 t

Condition: used, SincoTec Model: POWER FLOW BIAXIAL 125/150 kN ±4000 Nm SincoTec POWER FLOW BIAXIAL 125/150 kN – ±4000 Nm Servo-hydraulic Test Stand Description: For sale is a servo-hydraulic biaxial test stand SincoTec POWER FLOW BIAXIAL. The unit has been used in an industrial environment and was fully functional up to decommissioning. All service and maintenance were professionally performed. Comprehensive technical documentation (operating, assembly, and wiring manuals) is available. The test stand is suitable for tensile/compression tests, torsion tests, and combined loading tests on components and assemblies, e.g. for fatigue, durability, and functional testing. Main technical data for the test stand: - Maximum test force (design): up to ±150 kN - Typical operating rating: 125 kN - Max. torque (torsion): ± 4,000 Nm - Max. linear cylinder stroke: ± 75 mm - Max. rotation angle: ± 50° - Measurement accuracy: Class 1 (DIN EN 10002-3) Test stand dimensions: - Total height: approx. 3,430 mm - Width: approx. 1,480 mm - Depth: approx. 1,180 mm - Max. weight of clamping fixture: 250 kg Hydraulic power unit (included) - Drive power: approx. 152 kW - Flow rate: approx. 260 l/min - Operating pressure: up to 280 bar - Hydraulic oil: HLP ISO VG 46 - Tank capacity: approx. 1,500 liters Power unit dimensions: - Length: approx. 2,714 mm - Width: approx. 1,820 mm - Height: approx. 2,085 mm Electrical data: Control cabinet / test stand - 400 V / 50 Hz Dcjdpezimcbsfx Amgsi - Connection: CEE 5-pin - Fusing: 16 A Hydraulic power unit - 400 V / 50 Hz three-phase current - Direct connection - Fusing: approx. 160 A Scope of delivery: - SincoTec POWER FLOW BIAXIAL servo-hydraulic test stand - Hydraulic power unit - Control cabinet with industrial PC - Measurement and control technology - Technical documentation The machine is structurally rated for up to 150 kN. The 125 kN specification refers to the typical operational configuration. Test stand weight: approx. 4.7 t Important note: “The table shown in the photos is not included in the sale.” Condition: used Scope of delivery: (see photo) (Specifications subject to change and errors excepted!) Further questions can be answered by phone.