Used Emag Universal Cylindrical Grinding Machine for sale (66,411)

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Kellenberger cylindrical grinding machine in very good condition. Available at a favorable price. Price significantly reduced !!!!! Dedpfxjw Dy Rqo Anzskr

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Used Kellenberger cylindrical grinding machine for sale in very good condition. Price significantly reduced !!!!! Dedpfow Dzbdex Anzokr

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, For sale is a high-precision universal and tool grinding machine, Strausak AG, Type 57U. Thanks to its versatile design with a cross table, it is ideal for tool, mold, and gauge manufacturing. It handles demanding grinding tasks on highly hardened workpieces (even in the range of 60–65 HRC) with absolute reliability. The spindle speed can be flexibly adjusted, and the maximum longitudinal travel of the X-axis is 600 mm with a center distance of 780 mm. The machine is in good condition. Machine Type 57U Manufacturing No. (Serial Number) 10686 Order No. 44137 Voltage (Volts) 380 V Frequency (Hz) 50 Hz Technical Feature Specification Max. Table Stroke / Longitudinal Travel (X-axis) 600 mm Center Distance (Workpiece Length max.) 780 mm Center Height 125 mm – 175 mm (depending on height blocks) Max. Grinding Diameter approx. 348 mm Table Dimensions 1,030 mm x 214 mm Table Swivel Range ± 9° Machine Weight (Net) approx. 2,500 kg (Shipping Weight approx. 2,700–2,800 kg) Dkjdpfev E Ivfox Anzor Net Machine Dimensions (L x W x H) approx. 2.30 m x 1.50 m x 1.50 m Recommended Space Requirement (Installation) at least 3.50 m x 2.50 m Spindle Speeds Continuously variable / Belt stages from 2,250 to 6,000 rpm Table Feed Continuously adjustable from 0 to 16 mm/min Do you need a high-quality but affordable metalworking machine for your production? Or do you want to sell yours? For further information or contact options, please visit our website.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1990, CNC cylindrical grinding machine Dkedpeid Aphefx Anzor Manufacturer: TSCHUDIN, Type: HTG 22 - 862, Year of manufacture: 1990 with MARPOSS E14 control and measuring control E5. Distance between centers: 650 mm Center height: 100 mm Grinding length: 620 mm Weight: approx. 4,500 kg. Further data can be found in: TECHNICAL DATA SHEET Includes many grinding wheels and attachments. Complete machine documentation available. Machine is in stock.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1968, Cylindrical grinding machine, manufacturer: STANKOIMPORT, type: XC3, year 1968, with accessories. Model: 3A 161. Centre height: 161 mm, grinding diameter: 322 mm. Centre distance/grinding length: 1000 mm. In good condition. Dkedsxq Tlrepfx Anzsr

Condition: excellent (used), Center height 300 mm Dsdpfx Aetpgnhjnzskr Distance between centers 3500 mm Grinding wheel 760 x 305 x 100 mm With DRO With measuring control MARPOSS Misc.accessories MARCELS MASCHINEN AG

Year of construction: 2021, condition: ready for operation (used), A universal external and internal cylindrical grinding machine Tachella, refurbished in 2021, is available. Center distance: 600mm, center height: 120mm, max. grinding diameter: 240mm, max. grinding length: 600mm, X/Z travel: 600mm/250mm, max. workpiece weight: 100kg/40kg. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2700mm/1900mm/1700mm, weight: approx. 2500kg. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Djdpfx Anezhnuiezjkr

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1975, center height in crank: 125 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 250 mm, The year of manufacture is estimated, but it is from the 1970s. Partially overhauled, geometry checked (within tolerance). TECHNICAL DATA Maximum height 125 mm Grinding diameter 250 mm Grinding length 750 mm Spindle power 3 kW Grinding spindle head Speed range 1500-2420 rpm Grinding wheel dimensions ø 400x50x127 mm Workpiece spindle head Speed range (stepless) 25 – 450 rpm Rotatable 90° Dsdpfx Aneid Sqwezekr Spindle taper MK 5 Tailstock Arbor mounting MK 3 Table feed (stepless) 100 – 6000 mm/min Maximum inclination 10° EQUIPMENT/ACCESSORIES  Tailstock with cross fine adjustment  Coolant system  Splash guard  1 flange with diamond grinding wheel  2 additional flanges  various mounting elements

Condition: good (used), Description Grinding diameter: 350 mm Grinding length: 1000 mm Center height: 180 mm Control: Fanuc 180-T Grinding wheel width: 80 (100) mm Grinding wheel diameter: 450 mm Grinding wheel motor power: 7.5 kW Table speed: continuous 10 m/min Swiveling grinding wheel head: ° Speed range (workpiece spindle): 10 - 800 rpm Swiveling workpiece head: 0 - 15° Maximum workpiece weight: 120 kg Tailstock mounting taper: MK 4 Tailstock quill travel: 35 mm Operating voltage: 400 V Total power consumption: 18 kW Machine weight (approx.): 6.5 t Dimensions (approx.): 3.75 x 2.25 x 1.80 m Dkjdpfx Aezmmthenzer - Factory number: 6769 - Universal external grinding machine with attachment for internal grinding - B-axis controlled for automatic swiveling of the grinding wheel head

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1974, mechanical ja centre distance 2000 mm weight of the machine ca. 7,9 t Dsdoy Ty Rpopfx Anzjkr

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, grinding diameter max. 320 mm grinding length 1.500 mm centre height 160 mm Control Touch Jones & Shipman between centers max. 100 kg Traverse Z-Axis 1.645 mm traversing speed m/min swivable +5 / -5 ° Traverse X-Axis 260 mm Dkodpfetqmrpex Anzsr traversing speed - 6 m/min grinding wheel motor 7,5 kW cutting speed 45 m/s Grinding wheel Ø x width x bore 450 x 50 x 203,2 mm Swivel range -15 / +90 ° turning speed range 0 - 660 U/min Torque 27 Nm tool adaptor MK 3 weight of the machine ca. 8,5 t dimensions of the machine ca. 5,5 x 2,5 x 2,0 m Cylindrical Grinding Machine JONES & SHIPMAN - Suprema Easy 1500 E - Replacement grinding wheel flange - Multi-grain diamond (for circumferential and lateral dressing, 10mm, 1 carat) - Tailstock with micro adjustment (max. adjustment range +-0.05mm) - Pneumatic quill retraction - Two-jaw bezel (range 8-75 mm)

Condition: ready for operation (used), A Joerg CNC precision cylindrical grinding machine for tools and rotationally symmetrical precision parts is available. Workpiece diameter range: 0.1mm-16mm, Speed: 10000rpm, Workpiece holding: W20/W25, Max. workpiece length: 250mm. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 1900mm/2000mm/1950mm, Weight: approx. 3000kg. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Dsdpszhb Ebefx Anzokr

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2021, operating hours: 10 h, functionality: fully functional, center height: 135 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 70 kg, grinding length: 600 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 405 mm, grinding diameter: 250 mm, grinding spindle motor power: 3,700 W, overall weight: 3,200 kg, pivoting range: 11 °, The machine is equipped with cycle control and is easy to operate; it can process various automatic cycles involving roughing, finishing, and spark-out, but it does not have CNC control. A grinding wheel, dressing diamond, coolant system, and balancing unit are included. Transport and commissioning are available on request. The machine can be inspected under power; it is new and has only been run for demonstrations, not for cutting operations. Dkjdpfx Aexl Uc Ionzjr

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, Used Cylindrical Grinding Machine Reckord M 1432 B The Reckord M 1432 B is a high-performance universal cylindrical grinding machine that combines maximum precision with robust construction. With a minimum infeed setting of just 0.0025 mm and outstanding roundness accuracy, it is ideal for demanding grinding tasks in both single-part and series production. Your advantages at a glance: Maximum precision: Minimum grinding wheel infeed of 0.0025 mm ensures top surface finishes and form accuracy. Exceptional flexibility: External, internal, and face grinding – swiveling workhead (+90° / -30°) and table (+3° / -6°) for tapers and complex geometries. Robust construction: Heavy-duty machine bed weighing approx. 4,000 kg for maximum rigidity and vibration damping. Powerful drive: 4 kW grinding wheel motor for rapid stock removal and short machining times. Djdpfjyxgldjx Anzjkr Ergonomic operation: Clearly arranged controls for rapid operator familiarization and intuitive handling. Technical Data Manufacturer: Reckord Model: M 1432 B (Model 1000) Type: Universal cylindrical grinding machine Centre height: 180 mm Max. grinding length: 1000 mm Max. grinding diameter: 315 mm Max. workpiece weight: 150 kg Workhead speeds: 40, 72, 128, 228 rpm Grinding wheel dimensions: 400 x 50 x 203 mm Grinding motor output: 4 kW Total power consumption: 7.8 kW Machine weight: approx. 4,000 kg Machine dimensions (L x W x H): 3240 x 1760 x 1680 mm Colour: Blue (as existing) Condition: Used, fully checked and operational Availability: Immediately ex stock Stockstadt Additional Information Scope of delivery: Cylindrical grinding machine Reckord M 1432 B including standard accessories as per the operating manual. Fully checked and operational. Technical documentation: Supplied in German. Optional services: Commissioning and training by experienced technicians, maintenance contract, as well as financing and leasing options on request. Inspection: The machine can be inspected by appointment in Stockstadt am Rhein.

Condition: new, Experience unparalleled precision and performance with ROBBI's range of cylindrical grinding machines. Our machines offer grinding lengths starting from 2000mm and are available in semi-automatic and CNC versions. With a grinding diameter range of 300-1000mm, the possibilities are endless. Partly available from stock! Discover our extensive range of optional accessories that make our cylindrical grinding machines even more versatile. Whether it's for complex workpieces or demanding tasks, our machines always deliver the best results. With ROBBI's years of experience, trust us to optimize your machining processes. Invest in quality and precision - contact us today! MAIN TECHNICAL DATA: Model: Omicron CNC 80 Grinding diameter: 795/895/955 mm Grinding length: 3000-6000 mm Center height: 400/450/500 mm Center distance: 3000-6000 mm Swing over bed: 795/895/955 mm Max. workpiece weight between centers: 4 t Additional technical data in the appendix MAIN TECHNICAL DATA: Model: Omicron CNC 60 Grinding diameter: 595/695 mm Grinding length: 1000-3000 mm Center height: 300/350 mm Center distance: 1150-3150 mm Swing over bed: 600/700 mm Max. workpiece weight between centers: 1200 kg Additional technical data available on request or in the appendix MAIN TECHNICAL DATA: Model: Omicron CNC 36 Grinding diameter: 355/455 mm Grinding length: 630-2030 mm Center height: 180/230 mm Swing over bed: 355/455 mm Max. workpiece weight: 250 (300 opt.) kg Additional technical data available on request or in the appendix ACCESSORIES (EXAMPLE FOR OMICRON CNC 80) CNC control: Siemens 840D Glass scales: in the X-axis Coolant system: with coolant collection tray Grinding wheel dresser: mounted on the tailstock (without diamond) Telescopic cover: for the table made of fabric Machine oil: 5l for the spindle Frequency converter: for spindle motor and workpiece drive (stepless) Hydraulic unit: for controlling the tailstock quill Ball screw in the axes: X and Z Optimized cycle with geometric and process parameters - The CNC grinding machines meet the production requirements for medium-sized workpieces. - The machines are equipped with the latest generation SIEMENS 840Di sl system. - The machine can be equipped with automatic measuring systems. Dodpfetximvjx Anzskr - It is possible to design the grinding wheel for geometries specifically created for the required type of production. - High-precision machining can be performed when the grinding machines are equipped with a third interpolated axis and specially designed software. EASY PROGRAMMING Complex programs can be created without the need for ISO programming knowledge. The input of parameters is facilitated by a series of messages and characters that explain the meaning of the various parameters step by step. The programming of work cycles is done by entering the same parameters of the cycle. The sequence of execution of the various cycles can be quickly and intuitively changed. By the way, in addition to affordable new machines and tested used machines, you can expect even more from us: • Consultation and problem-solving at your location • Organization of machine transport to your facility • Installation, commissioning, and turnkey delivery, and more.

Year of construction: 1966, condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 12485, grinding diameter:350 mm grinding length:2500 mm centre height:180 mm total power requirement:5,5 kW Dsdpsi E Ix Nefx Anzskr weight of the machine ca.:5,5 t

Condition: used, Cylindrical Grinding Machine: Schaudt Model: RFH 500 Condition: used Centre height: 100 mm Dedpfx Aey R Dlfonzskr Centre distance: 500 mm Spindle speeds: 2225 / 2500 / 2825 rpm Grinding wheel diameter min./max.: 200 - 300 mm Weight, approx.: 1900 kg Equipment: - Manual & automatic operation - Coolant system - Machine lamp - Emergency stop button - Machine leveling feet

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, grinding width: 550 mm, grinding height: 580 mm, distance table to spindle center: 680 mm, table load: 1,000 kg, table width: 800 mm, grinding wheel width: 57 mm, spindle speed (max.): 1,500 rpm, overall weight: 6,000 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, CNC Rotary Table Surface Grinding Machine ROSA ERMANDO CNC 800 – LIKE NEW (2024) For sale is a state-of-the-art CNC rotary table surface grinding machine, ROSA ERMANDO CNC 800, manufactured in 2024 and in like-new condition. The machine comes from an industrial application (Syntegon) and has been used very little. It will be available and ready for operation from January 2027. Thanks to the Siemens Sinumerik ONE control system and its extensive features, this machine is ideally suited for precise grinding operations in the tool, mold, and machine tool industries. ⚙️ Technical Data Manufacturer: ROSA ERMANDO Type: CNC 800 Year of Manufacture: 2024 Control System: Siemens Sinumerik ONE (Rosa System 9 Touch) Axes: 3 Travel: X: 550 mm Y: 680 mm Grinding Wheel: 400 x 57 x 127 mm Spindle Power: 11 kW Max. Speed: 1500 rpm Spindle Condition: New 🧰 Equipment / Accessories ✅ Electro-permanent magnetic clamping table Ø 800 mm ✅ Adjustable magnetic force (20–100 %) ✅ Demagnetization device ✅ Coolant system with band filter (100 l/min, 350 l tank) Dkjdezhnbpopfx Anzor ✅ Additional grinding wheel flanges ✅ Teleservice / Remote diagnostics ✅ CE marking Important conditions: Please note that the sale of this machine is only possible under the following conditions: • Sale exclusively to end users/manufacturing companies (no resale to dealers) – corresponding company profile required • Sale only within Germany or the EU • Inclusion of a dual-use disclaimer in the purchase contract (legally required) Sales / Transfer Conditions: • Dismantling, removal, and transport are the responsibility of the buyer and at their own risk. • The buyer is responsible for providing personnel, tools, and transport equipment. The personnel must only work with appropriate personal protective equipment, and only trained personnel may be used. If you are interested, we look forward to hearing from you so that we can discuss the further details directly.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, We are selling grinding and regulating wheel spindles for a Lidköping CL 630. The machine is no longer for sale! Only the spindles Dodsrf Ukqspfx Anzokr 6x regulating wheel spindles 8x grinding wheel spindles Individually or in a package

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1989, functionality: fully functional, center height: 175 mm, center width: 1,000 mm, We are offering this well-maintained KELLENBERGER 1000U cylindrical grinding machine, manufactured in 1989. It underwent a partial overhaul in 2009. This machine would be used as a secondary unit and has seen very little use. Manufacturer: KELLENBERGER Model: 1000U Year of manufacture: 1989 Dksdpjy Uq S Hofx Anzor If you have any questions or require further information, please feel free to send us a message or call us.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, center height: 125 mm, overall weight: 4,700 kg, We are offering this used Kellenberger KEL-VISION cylindrical grinding machine, manufactured in 2004, for sale. Type: KEL-VISION Weight (max.): 4700 kg Year of manufacture: 2004 Machine No.: 665100 Includes a Universal Robots UR5 robot. Dsdpfx Aney Uriaszokr If you have any questions or require further information, please feel free to send us a message or call us.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2021, operating hours: 5,500 h, grinding length: 600 mm, grinding diameter: 440 mm, feed length X-axis: 325 mm, feed length Z-axis: 750 mm, Control system, serial number and main data o Control system: SIEMENS, Type 840 D SL o Operating hours recorded: 5,475 Travel ranges o X-axis travel: 325 mm o Z-axis travel: 750 mm Axis speeds o X and Z axes max.: 15,000 mm/min o X and Z axes min.: 0.01 mm/min Working area o Max. grinding length: 600 mm o Max. grinding diameter: 440 mm o Min. grinding diameter: 10 mm Performance data o Grinding spindle: 1 tool for external cylindrical grinding o Tool dimensions: Ø 610 x 160 x 304.8 mm o Cutting speed: 60 m/s o Power: 15 kW Workpiece spindle o Speed range: 30 - 5,000 min⁻¹ o Taper: 5 Morse Dsdpfszgdtlex Anzekr Tailstock o Design: pneumatic o Max. quill stroke: 80 mm o Taper: 5 Morse Connection values o 400 V / 50 Hz / 71 A / 43 kW Automation / Peripherals • Handling robot, YASKAWA, Type YR-1-06VXH12-A00, year of manufacture 2022, serial number 6V2272528290001 • Automation system / workpiece storage, EGS AUTOMATION DANOBAT, Type CG600-BL1, year of manufacture 2023, serial number 190605-6, 2-position • Filter, 3FS, Type M1600, No. 565209, year of manufacture 2021, weight 85 kg • Oil band filter, MICROFILTER, Type EASYBAND 150, serial number 0202, year of manufacture 2021 • Pump, REXROTH, Type HM-46

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 7,400 h, machine/vehicle number: 100644, grinding length: 600 mm, workpiece length between centers: 600 mm, feed length X-axis: 650 mm, feed length Z-axis: 1,000 mm, overall weight: 10,000 kg, Control, monitoring, and operating data o NC control: SIEMENS, Type 840 D SL o Year of manufacture: 2022 o Serial number: 100644 o Recorded operating hours: 7,315 o Monitoring system: MARPOSS, Type P7 Travel ranges o X-axis: 650 mm o Z-axis: 1,000 mm Axis speeds o X and Z axis max.: 15,000 mm/min o X and Z axis min.: 0.01 mm/min Working area o Max. grinding length: 600 mm o Center distance: 225 mm Performance data o Grinding spindle: 1 tool for external cylindrical grinding o Tool dimensions: Ø 760 x 250 x Ø 304.8 mm o Cutting speed: 60 m/s o Power: 30 kW o Max. grinding wheel speed according to text: approx. 80 m/s Workpiece spindle o Axis speed: 5 - 1,000 min⁻¹ o Taper: 5 Morse o Motor torque: 16 N.m Tailstock & facing tool o Taper: 5 Morse o Max. tailstock quill travel: 80 mm o Diamond wheel profiler Saddle drives o Torque of X-axis motor: 28 N.m o Torque of Z-axis motor: 16 N.m Operating data o Year of manufacture: 2022 o Recorded operating hours: 7,315 o Operating pressure: approx. 6 bar Djdpfxjzgbw Ij Anzskr General data o 3 x 400 VAC / 50 Hz / 72 kW / 119 A o Weight: 10,000 kg Peripherals • Automated workpiece removal station, JOVI, Type 1113B, year of manufacture 2022, weight approx. 300 kg • Air filter unit, IFS, Type M 1600, year of manufacture 2022, serial no. 567663, weight approx. 85 kg, connection power 380 - 460 V, 50 / 60 Hz, 0.7 kW, 1.5 - 2.1 A • Hydraulic unit, REXROTH, Type Deposito HE-16120 • Coolant filter unit, MICRONFILTER, Type EASY 250 / KMT350, year of manufacture 2022, serial no. 0201, tank volume approx. 2,300 l, connection power 400 V / 50 Hz, 2.44 kW • Immersion cooler, HASCH, Type MCS-120ST-05AOP6R7S7UZ1-3405C, year of manufacture 2022, serial no. 1003220300954, weight approx. 206 kg • Magnetic separator, MICRONFILTER, Type KMT350, serial no. 0211 • Tool loading unit, DANOBAT, Type rotary table lift, year of manufacture 2022, serial no. 3130490901, weight approx. 350 kg, max. load capacity approx. 360 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 2,800 h, grinding length: 600 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 450 mm, total width: 3,300 mm, total length: 2,900 mm, total height: 1,900 mm, grinding diameter: 290 mm, quill stroke: 80 mm, distance between centers: 600 mm, grinding wheel width: 50 mm, feed length X-axis: 300 mm, feed length Z-axis: 800 mm, grinding spindle motor power: 25,000 W, grinding spindle speed: 4,500 rpm, Technical Data Year of manufacture, serial number and operating hours o Year of manufacture: 2022 o Operating hours recorded: 2,737 Control and monitoring o Control: SIEMENS, type SINUMERIK o Monitoring system: MARPOSS, type P7 Travel distances o X-axis: 300 mm o Z-axis: 800 mm Axis speeds o X and Z axis max.: 15,000 mm/min o X and Z axis min.: 0.010 mm/min Work area o Max. grinding length: 600 mm o Center height above the table: 150 mm o Max. swing diameter above the table: 290 mm o Workpiece weight: approx. 50 kg Performance data o Grinding wheel speed: up to 120 m/s o Max. grinding wheel dimensions: Ø 450 x 50 mm o Workpiece spindle speed: 30 - 2,000 rpm o Grinding wheel drive: 25 kW / 70 Nm / max. 4,500 min⁻¹ o Workpiece spindle: 15 kW / 24 Nm / max. 5,000 min⁻¹ Hydraulic steady rest and tool dresser o Taper: MT4 o Max. quill stroke: 80 mm o Diamond dressing wheel, outer diameter 100 mm Workpiece spindle o Taper: MT5 Operating data & connection values o Operating hours recorded: 2,737 Machine connection values o 3 x 400 VAC / 50 Hz / 58 kW / 97 A Dimensions / Footprint o Required footprint (L x W x H): 2,810 x 3,300 x 1,900 mm Peripherals • Automated workpiece removal station, JOVI, type 1113A, year of manufacture 2022, own weight approx. 300 kg • Air filter unit, IFS, type VARIO M 2000, serial no. 568113, year of manufacture 2022, own weight approx. 120 kg, connection power 400/460 V, 50/60 Hz, 0.7 kW, 1.7/1.6 A • Water cooling unit, HASCH, type MCW-50CT-17AUZ1-3407C, serial no. 1001220302582, year of manufacture 2022, own weight approx. 150 kg, tank volume approx. 15 l • Coolant filtration system, MICRONFILTER, type EASY 250 / KMT350, serial no. 0201, year of manufacture 2022, tank volume approx. 2,300 l, connection power 400 V / 50 Hz, 5.34 kW • Immersion cooler, HASCH, type MCS-120ST-05AOP6R7S6UZ1-3407C, serial no. 1003220400836, year of manufacture 2022, own weight approx. 206 kg • Coolant tank, MICRONFILTER, type VR200L / MIN-150L, serial no. 0201, year of manufacture 2022, tank volume approx. 150 l, connection power 400 V / 50 Hz, 1.1 kW • Separating magnet, MICRONFILTER, type KMT350, serial no. 0212 • Loading unit, DANOBAT, type rotary table lift, serial no. 3810490908, year of manufacture 2022, own weight approx. 170 kg, max. load capacity approx. 230 kg • Rotary table trolley, year of manufacture 2022, serial number 110000503 Dedpfjzgan Sex Anzekr

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1996, functionality: fully functional, grinding length: 1,000 mm, External cylindrical grinding machine KARSTENS K29 Year of manufacture: 1996 The machine underwent a complete mechanical overhaul in 2022. Invoices are available. Dkedpfx Aszfgvaonzsr Grinding length: 1,000 mm Grinding diameter: Accessories: - Coolant system - Various grinding wheels - Measuring probe Further details to follow.