Used Polpak Packaging Machine For Bulk Products for sale (78,221)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2002, Manufacturer - OMES Capacity - 1400 pallets/shift Year - 2002 Line currently dismantled Ksdpfx Aewwiv Aecfolw

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2024, operating hours: 100 h, Automatic wooden pallet production line. Manufacturer - STORTI  Year - 2024 Capacity - 4-5 pallets/min. The pallet legs (logs) are fed automatically on a chain conveyor belt, then the upper elements are positioned in the molds by the operator. Kledjxwl Daspfx Acfjw It moves to the first nailing machine where the upper part of the pallet is assembled. It is automatically rotated 180 degrees and prepared for the assembly of the lower part of the pallet in the second nailing machine. The corner chamfering, longitudinal milling and stamping of the pallet are then automatically performed. The newly formed pallet enters the automatic stacking installation with 90 degree rotation and turning function. NOTE : Line is instaled in 2025 and make 100 hours !   New line just put into operation!

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2535, type of input current: three-phase, product height (max.): 150 mm, product length (max.): 450 mm, product width (max.): 280 mm, input voltage: 400 V, compressed air connection: 6 bar, input current: 16 A, width of welding knife: 480 mm, length of welding knife: 380 mm, overall weight: 750 kg, year of last overhaul: 2018, energy consumption: 8 kWh, Neatly refurbished packaging machine with shrink tunnel. Possibility to test run at our location. Maximum speed of 30 pieces per minute. Maximum single fold film width 600 mm. Transport not included. Kledpfx Acewutu Refow

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2005, total height: 3,900 mm, total width: 1,700 mm, total length: 7,600 mm, type of input current: three-phase, overall weight: 4,000 kg, For Sale: Neat and in good condition: Brand: Affeldt type of conveyor: Affeldt E350 DG5 type of counter: Affeldt 275 8EV type of packaging machine: Affeldt 773 includes: conveyor belt + counting machine + vertical packaging machine Suitable for both PE and PP film. dimensions: (L x W x H) 7600 x 1700 x 3900 mm tube diameter: 180 mm weight approx. 4000 KG documentation and electrical diagrams available Year of manufacture: 2005 It has run very little and is complete. It is possible to inspect the machine at our location. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us. Kljdpexztaqefx Acfsw Kind regards, Leo Holland

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, The Tetra Pak Aseptic Filler TBA/8 is a high-performance machine designed for filling liquids into 390 ml brik cartons, especially suitable for dairy, juice, beverage, sauce, and concentrate applications. This model combines reliability, energy efficiency, and production flexibility. Outstanding technical specifications: - Production capacity: up to 6,000 containers per hour (bph) in the 390 ml format. - Filling system: Aseptic technology with electronic pre-expulsion valve and automatic level control. Actual production may vary depending on format. Kedpfx Ajw Hf Awecfelw

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, The Tetra Pak Aseptic Filler A3 FLEX is a high-performance machine designed for filling liquids into 500 ml brik cartons, especially for dairy, juice, beverage, sauce, and concentrate applications. This model offers a combination of reliability, energy efficiency, and production flexibility. Outstanding technical specifications: - Production capacity: up to 6,000 containers per hour (bph) in the 500 ml format. - Intuitive operator interface: Tetra Pak touch panel. Output may vary depending on the format. Klodpfx Acsw Hf Efofew

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2017, Nordson Durablue 4F hotmelt glue unit suitable for up to 6 hose connections. This unit is equipped with a gear pump, unlike a (double-acting) plunger pump, this has no so-called dead stroke. This makes the unit very suitable for constant glue assignments where an even glue dosage is important. Kljdovupz Iopfx Acfjw The glue unit has been completely cleaned internally and externally by us, tested and is fully functional.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, New Robatech hand applicator with new 3 m glue hose for hot melt gluing. Unique advantages: - Ergonomic design of the hand applicator - Maximum application flexibility: horizontal, top-down, bottom-up Kedpfx Asxqp I Aecfelw - Comfortable and non-tiring for the user, preventing uneven strain and muscle tension - CoolTouch handle ensures safety and workplace protection We have several Robatech glue units for sale to which the Ergostar can be connected; we can assist you with these as well. Feel free to inquire about the possibilities.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: SA13E94180, input voltage: 380 V, Nordson Problue 10 suitable for up to 6 hose connections with an automatic filling system. Fully cleaned and serviced, thoroughly tested for operation, both electrically and mechanically. The filling lance, hose, and raw material container are not included in this offer but can be provided as additional items upon request. Klsdpfew Rd Sdsx Acfew

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2000, operating hours: 100 h, functionality: fully functional, TERM MIN FM76 heat-sealing packaging machine. Used for packaging containers on cardboard trays. Kjdpfxszac N He Acfslw

Year of construction: 2009, condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: 6863.209.036, The machine has previously been used for triangular shaped packages containing Swedish crisp bread. It can be powered on at inspection. The machine is stored in our warehouse in Lund. Kjdpfxsy Nmhtj Acfslw

Year of construction: 2009, condition: used, Mepac heavy duty vertical bagging machine for bulk productions. Ksdext Ib Hopfx Acfslw

Condition: used, No. 3198 Machine package painting & surface treatment BUETFERING, HEESEMANN, Barberan Used Consisting of: - Wide belt sanding machine BUETFERING Classic 313 - QCE - UV lacquer roller Barberan BRB - 1400 - Drying channel Barberan HOK - 14/2 - Lacquer sanding machine HEESEMANN FGA 8 - Suction unit Schuko Vacomat S/N 25/45 Technical data: - Wide belt sanding machine BUETFERING Classic 313 - QCE Used, year of construction 2000 Sanding width 1350 mm Sanding belt width cross belt 150 mm Sanding belt length cross belt 4700 mm Sanding belt width wide belt 1370 mm Sanding belt length wide belt 1900 mm Workpiece thickness 3 - 150 mm Feed infinitely variable 2.5 - 13 m/min Power cross belt 15 kW 1st wide belt 12.5/16 kW 2nd wide belt 11 kW Total connection 49 kW Sanding of veneered workpieces with the cross sanding unit and the link pressure beam in one or two passes Precise calibration with the contact roller of the 2nd unit Kljdjvxrynjpfx Acfow Sanding solid wood: 1st pass with the contact roller / 2nd pass with the cross sanding unit and the link pressure beam Weight of the machine 4500 kg - UV lacquer roller Barberan BRB - 1400 Used, year of construction 2006 For application of primer and top coat - Drying channel Barberan HOK - 14/2 Used, year of construction 2006 With half pressure lamp made of mercury or gallium, with an output of 80 W/cm or 120 W/cm Elliptical point reflector, air cooled, made of aluminum Air cooling system for each lamp or reflector - Lacquer sanding machine HEESEMANN FGA 8 Used, year of construction 1994 Multi-purpose surface sanding machine 1 sanding belt, oscillating Sanding belt width 1350 mm Drive 11 kW Workpiece height max. 140 mm Sanding belt dimensions 2620 x 1350 mm LW - Suction unit Schuko Vacomat S/N 25/45 Used, year of construction 2000 Filter area 45 m2 Sale on behalf of the customer, ex location near 86156 Augsburg, without dismantling, without transport and assembly Dismantling, loading and transport by us optionally possible Errors in the description and price excepted To avoid possible misunderstandings, an on-site inspection by appointment is possible and recommended Sold as is Technical details, condition description, year of construction and scope of delivery according to manufacturer's brochure or previous owner, without guarantee Subject to prior sale For used machines, any warranty is excluded, the following applies: “purchased as seen” Pictures and videos serve as examples and do not represent the actual scope of delivery Terms of payment: Prices plus VAT, payment before collection or dispatch Terms of delivery: ex location

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, Horizontal packaging machine for pre-made bags, including an auger filler for powdery products and a linear weigher for granules or bulk materials. The auger filler and linear weigher are mounted on movable frames and can only be operated alternately; simultaneous filling of the bag is not possible. Suitable for pre-made flat bags, doypacks, block-bottom/flat-bottom bags. Tools and modules for specific bag features such as zip/pressure seals, twist-off closures (spouts), gusset shapes, batch/date printers and gas-flushing modules can be integrated for extra charge. MITSUBISHI PLC, SMC vacuum filter, OMRON PID temperature control, AIRTAC cylinders. - Horizontal packaging machine specifications: max. speed of the machine in neutral: 12 cycles/minute; bag width: 100-300 mm; bag length: 100-350 mm; required compressed air pressure: 0.65 MPa; compressed air consumption: 0.2 m³/min; power supply: 220V, single-phase; power consumption: 1kW; housing: 304 stainless steel; machine dimensions: approx. L1754xW510xH1617mm. - Auger filler specifications: max. speed of the machine in neutral: 50 cycles/minute; dosing range: 50-100g (further ranges available on request); hopper capacity: 50 litres; accuracy: ±1.5%; hopper with side opening; housing: 304 stainless steel; parts in contact with the product: 304 stainless steel and acrylic (viewing window); PLC-controlled; dosing screw driven by a servo motor; power supply: 220V, single-phase. - Linear weigher specifications: max. speed of the machine in neutral: 60 cycles/minute; number of weighing heads: 4; capacity per weighing container: 0.5L; weighing range: 10-150g (further ranges available on request); accuracy: 0.2-1g; parts in contact with the product: 304 stainless steel; plastic dust cover; operation via touchscreen; power supply: 220V, single-phase. Included are 2 movable racks made of 304 stainless steel, as well as an output conveyor belt for transporting the finished bags. The photo shows only the horizontal packaging machine. Further photos available on request. Klsdpsv Nll Ejfx Acfew

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Box forming Inner bag thermoforming Pasta filling Ksdpfx Aceu Ivdtefjlw Top filling Sealing

Condition: used, Item: LC-13470-UV-Clean Industrial UV Treatment System – Complete Unit Complete industrial UV treatment system for non-thermal processing of liquid products. Suitable for juice, beverage, food, and process water applications. - Stainless steel UV reactors Kodsx It Rfspfx Acfelw - UV power & control unit included - Food-grade, hygienic design - Continuous inline operation - Preserves taste and product quality Main Components: - Stainless steel UV reactors (inclined design) - UV lamp housings with quartz sleeves - UV power & control unit - Electrical cabinets and control panel - UV lamps, cables and accessories (included) Technical Features: - Food-grade stainless steel construction - Non-thermal UV treatment - Continuous inline operation - Hygienic design, easy to clean and service - Suitable for integration into existing production lines Condition: Good, dismantled and stored on pallets Availability: In stock, ready for delivery

Condition: excellent (used), Dear Sir or Madam, Kljdjyrypzepfx Acfsw We are pleased to offer you a manufacturing cell in very good used condition. The set comprises a total of 4 machines: – Traub TNL 26 – Gildemeister GD 32 – Star SV-20 – Star SR-32 including all relevant documentation, extraction systems, and accessories. Please feel free to contact us for a quotation.

Condition: refurbished (used), Rovema SPA end packaging machine for wraparound for with long flaps and with short flaps Klodpfex Ag Ukjx Acfew

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2021, operating hours: 3,000 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: TOBEREVEALED, Semi-Automatic Mattress Rolling Line DOLPHIN PACK ANDER ROLL - 2021 Optimize your company's packaging process with the nearly factory-new DOLPHIN PACK ANDER ROLL line, enabling mattress rolling without the need for a press. This advanced machine effortlessly handles even thick models and dense foams, guaranteeing top-tier efficiency. Secure a machine in perfect condition, available immediately at a fraction of the cost of new equipment, and make an investment that will instantly accelerate your production. For sale: a fully operational, Italian semi-automatic line for rolling and packaging mattresses (previously packed in bags) DOLPHIN PACK ANDER ROLL, model ASAND033. Condition and Mileage: • Year of production: 2021. • Mileage: Only 30,000 units rolled (near factory condition). • Condition: Perfect, the device was used in a single-shift mode. • Service: Installed and serviced by an authorized manufacturer's technician. • Visual condition: Mechanical components are clean and well-maintained; Siemens HMI touch screen operates without errors. Technical Data: • Capacity: approx. 2 pcs/min (depending on mattress size). • Rolling diameter: Adjustable between 250 - 450 mm. • Supported mattress dimensions: Width 800 - 2100 mm. • Minimum mattress weight: 10 kg. • Power supply: 400 V, 3 phases, 50 Hz. • Machine dimensions: approx. 4273 mm (length) x 2800 mm (total width). • Components: Siemens S7 1200 PLC/HMI controller, Metalwork/AZ pneumatics, Yaskawa inverters, Vikers hydraulic pump. Included Equipment: • Full technical documentation (DTR), electrical schematics, and operating manual. • CE certificate. • Full safety fencing (black RAL 9005 mesh, yellow RAL 1003 posts). Sales Conditions: • Price: 195,000 PLN net + 23% VAT (the price of a new machine is over 300,000 PLN net). Ksdpszaq Tgofx Acfslw • Sales format: VAT invoice. • Availability: Immediately available, ready for dismantling. • Pickup: In-person pickup near Bydgoszcz, Poland (we offer assistance in organizing transport).

Year of construction: 2005, condition: excellent (used), machine/vehicle number: 72164xxx, The Moba maxipacks Worldwide, the Moba maxipack M16 and M22 are the only machines that are able to package entire chickens in a bag, both frozen and fresh. The maxipack is an extremely reliable machine. Therefore, these machines are well-known in the chicken slaughtering industry for decades. The maxipack is made of stainless steel and high-quality, wear-resistant plastics. These ensure that the maxipack is able to continue to run for years in the production process after extensive mechanical, electrical and electronic revision. Moba M16 The Moba M16 taper machine is, suitable packing smaller chickens with a range of 900 to 1200 grams per chicken. - The machine consists of four protective covers with an interlock system that immediately deposits the machine when opened. In combination with the emergency stop, this ensures that the machine is safe to use. - Plastic bags can be easily changed by using the change function. This function ensures that the turntable rotates a quarter turn to ensure enough space to change the bags. - The compressed air system on this Maxipack is adjustable by means of a pressure reducing valve. The pressure reducing valve ensures that the moisture is filtered out of the compressed air. - The maxipack is also equipped with a pressure regulator, that ensures the maxipack to switch off if the pressure drops below 5 bar. Revision Moba M16 Maxipacks that arrive at Bos Technical Support are thoroughly cleaned before starting the revision. For the revision, original Moba high qualitiy components are used. Each maxipack is equipped with a new PLC (Program Logic Controller) that includes the latest software. The 8 pneumatic cylinders that this machine includes are all checked and replaced when necessary. The electrical cabinet is being rebuilt and provided with new wiring. All machines come with an instruction manual and will be extensively tested to determine whether the machine is ready for a prolonged period of time in the production proces. More information? We have multiple Moba M16 and M22 machines in stock for sale and rental. For more information see also our website Kledpfxoh Ri A Ae Acfow Specifications Moba Maxipack M22 taper: - Capacity: 800 chickens/hour (per machine) - Tape: 9-12 mm wide (optional 19 mm tape) - Machine weight: 540 kg - Machine size (L-W-H): 2395-850-1700 cm - Weight range: 900-1200 grams - Electrical 3 phase, neutral and ground - Voltage: 400 V - Power consumption: 1.4 KVA/hour - Frequency: 50/60 Hz - Airpressure: 6 bar - Maximum dewpoint: 3 Celsius - Air consumption: 7500 L/hour Bos Technical Support import-export packaging machines. Sorteermachine eier verpakkingsmachine eiersorteermachine egg gradingmachine sortiermachine sortieranlage eierverpackungsmachine Maxipack, Moba, Sanovo, Staalkat, Prinzen, Rational, Kletec

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2010, Sanovo OptiGrader 600 – 18 Packing lanes – built 2010 Offered for sale: a Sanovo OptiGrader 600, built in 2010, with a capacity of 216,000 eggs per hour (600 boxes per hour). This grader is equipped with 18 packing lanes, is in good but used condition and will be available very soon. 🔷 Description of the machine The Sanovo OptiGrader 600 is a professional egg grader known for its gentle egg handling, high capacity and reliable performance. The system is equipped with digital scales with an accuracy of 0.1 grams, ensuring very accurate sorting. The easy calibration and customer-friendly operation make this machine particularly suitable for daily intensive use. The machine has always been serviced by the dealer and comes complete with combi Loader. The rig can be viewed running in production. 🔷 Technical specifications Specification Description Brand Sanovo Type OptiGrader 600 Year built 2010 Capacity 216,000 eggs per hour Capacity (boxes) 600 boxes per hour Number of packaging jobs 18 Egg treatment Gentle handling of eggs Cleaning Weighing Digital scale, 0.1 g accuracy Calibration Simple Operation Customer-friendly Detection Crack and dirt detection Loader Combi loader Maintenance Always dealer-maintained Condition Good, used condition Availability Available very soon Viewing To view in production 🔷 Modules & equipment Crack detection Dirt detection Traystackers on the first 2 packing lanes Combi Loader Klodpjyaubzjfx Acfjw 🔷 Features & benefits High capacity: 216,000 eggs per hour 18 packaging jobs Cautious egg treatment Digital weighing with 0.1 g precision Dirt and Crack detection User-friendly operation Running in production Dealer maintained installation 🔷 State of the machine The Sanovo OptiGrader 600 is in good but used condition and has been technically inspected. This is a complete and neat grading machine that can be reliably used within a professional packing station for many years to come. 🔷 Delivery, transportation & support Machine is available very soon Delivery by arrangement Transportation and support worldwide negotiable 🔷 Contact Are you interested in this Sanovo OptiGrader 600 or would you like additional information or to schedule a viewing? Please contact Bos Technical Support BV without obligation. All information in this ad has been compiled with care. Nevertheless, no rights can be derived from the content. Bos Technical Support BV accepts no liability for any errors, omissions or changes in specifications, prices or availability.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2002, Moba 330 Plateau Loader - Year 2000 Professional Moba 330 plateau loader, suitable for connection to both left and right configurations. The machine is inline deployable and can be converted to offline version by Bos Technical Support BV. The Loader is now in storage with us and available for immediate delivery. Description of the machine The Moba 330 plateau loader is designed for reliable and controlled Infeed of eggs to the grader. Thanks to its flexible configuration options, this plateau loader can be widely used within existing Moba lines. The machine has always been serviced by a dealer and is in good but used condition. Due to its relatively low load and solid construction, this Loader is still excellent for long-term professional use. Technical specifications Specification Description Brand Moba Type 330 Plateau Loader Construction year 2000 Capacity 120000 eggs per hour Version Suitable for left and right Use Inline Conversion Conversion to offline possible Condition Good, used condition Maintenance Always dealer-maintained Availability Directly available from stock Features & capabilities Suitable for left and right configurations Inline deployment Offline conversion possible (by Bos Technical Support) Robust and proven Moba technology Easy integration into existing lines State of the machine The platform Loader is in good but used condition. The machine has been professionally maintained and technically checked. No overhaul performed - selling in current condition, fully functional, can also be delivered overhauled. Delivery, transportation & support Machine is in stock at Bos Technical Support BV Directly available Kodpex N Ecvofx Acfjlw Conversion to offline execution possible Transportation and support worldwide negotiable Contact Are you interested in this Moba 330 plateau loader or would you like additional information? Please contact Bos Technical Support BV without obligation. Are you interested in this Moba 170 Loader stand-alone or would you like additional information? Please feel free to contact Bos Technical Support BV for availability, price and delivery options. Sorteermachine eier verpakkingsmachine -eiersorteermachine egg gradingmachine sortiermachine sortieranlage eierverpackungsmachine MR 40 palletizer Maxipack, Moba, Sanovo, Staalkat, Prinzen, Rational, Kletec Yaskawa

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2017, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 20170259471, total length: 22,000 mm, total height: 2,000 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, control cabinet length: 2,400 mm, control cabinet width: 400 mm, warranty duration: 12 months, control cabinet height: 2,200 mm, year of last overhaul: 2025, Side Sealing Machine - Manufacturer: BVM Brunner GmbH & Co. KG - Machine type: Comtex 4G - Machine No.: 20170259471 - Year of manufacture: 2017 - BVM reference no.: 5947 - Voltage, Frequency: 3N 400V, 50Hz - Power specifications: P=18kW, I=26A, F=32AT - Condition: Fully refurbished with warranty Comtex 4G Shipping System: The BVM shipping system ‘Comtex 4G Shipping’ is the complete solution for mailing various items directly to customers, including labeling. Delivery notes, invoices, and goods are packed together in a tightly sealed PE film bag, labeled with the address sticker, and handed directly over to the respective logistics partner. Technical data: - Seal width: 750 mm (transverse), 800 mm (longitudinal) - Product height: up to 250 mm - Capacity: Up to 25 cycles/min* (Special) features: - Special color - Signal control light with three colors to indicate error messages - Pneumatically operated buffer plate and presence control for the film waste tray, enabling tray change during automatic operation (no machine stoppage required). Note: At this station, the Comtex working height is limited to 850 +/- 10 mm. - Electronically controlled sealing bar drive (servo-driven, stepless speed adjustment) - Film end detection by ultrasonic sensor, incl. analog input card (one per film carrier) - Mechanical distribution device for film scrap strips in combination with a large film scrap storage - Individual wire numbering in the control cabinet of the packaging machine for Comtex 3G and 4G - Grooved aluminum profile covered with plastic profile - Bypass conveyor as folding belt integrated in the Comtex downstream of the side sealing station for transferring products out of the machine Kljdpfxjw Ryt Dj Acfew - Film folding device (no separate control) for converting flat film into center-folded film - Film sealing device for flat films - PN/PN coupler (Profinet coupler) for establishing a Profinet connection - Software development for PN/PN coupling including release connection, interlock and combined fault message - Film end detection at the film mount and film level detection at the film unwinder, detected by photoelectric sensors, including three-color signal lamp and acoustic signal - Mounting preparation for labeler, suitable models on request, installed at the infeed including electrical and pneumatic connections - Sealing bar for producing a wide seal seam with separate cold knife cut, suitable for Comtex 3G, 4G and Compacta with EGS - Manual labeling device with linear motion (Model: Caljan Type: FPS BVM L113 L) - Reclosable film bag by means of double-sided adhesive tape in the film bag, incl. tear-off perforation wheel - Additional tear-off perforation wheel, allowing complete removal of the bag’s edge area - Stand-alone control cabinet for Comtex with 5 meter cable - Two sequentially mounted indexing belts (600 x 900 mm/600 x 14,000 mm) for Comtex 4G (total length 14,950 mm) with space for installation of a scanner or camera incl. trigger light curtain for scanner - Height adjustment of cross seal for pass-through height 220-250 mm - Cognex scanner system, consisting of: -- Scanner below the infeed for delivery notes -- 2 overhead scanners -- 1 overhead scanner for control +++ Fully refurbished equipment with 12-month warranty according to our attached warranty conditions +++

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Welding line with logistics (URBAN year 2008 / SOENEN year 2018) URBAN welding line – €10,000 Kodov Enw Nopfx Acfslw SOENEN welding line with logistics – €25,000

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, In this offer you purchase a used colour production system "Canon imagePRESS V1000 ’ from 12.2023 Object of sale: 1 x Canon imagePRESS V1000 with the following equipment: 5212c003 - Canon Fixing Station V1000 5948c003 - Canon Resale Licence 5222c003 - Canon Booklet Finisher AF1 5214c003 - Canon Multi-Drwaer Paper Deck E1 5936c001 - Canon PrismaSync 5606c001 - Canon Duplex Colour Image Reader P1 5261c001 - Canon Operator Attention Light A1 Not the right equipment? It is no problem to configure the machine according to your wishes. Please feel free to contact us! Meter readings: Total: Approx. 1,686,664 pages Condition: This offer is for a used device which is in mint condition. Ksdpsu Tqnujfx Acfslw The device has been fully tested for function A test printout can be seen in the photo Packaging and dispatch: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment for this! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A function test will be recorded on video for you before dispatch or collection. For further information, you can of course also contact us personally.