Used Vertical Processing Machine for sale (72,105)

Condition: refurbished (used), Ruhle frozen meat block guillotine With cross blade and vertical blades Motor gearbox driven Compact machine minimum floor space Tote bin discharge Safety interlocked tote bin switch Safety interlocked front cover Nlodpjyvrurefx Aazsg In excellent working condition

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2015, functionality: fully functional, * Okuma Millac 852V II / 50. * Machine in excellent condition with very few cutting hours. * Machine designed for high material removal rates. * Prismatic guides on all axes. * Quadruple prismatic guide system on the Y-axis. * Extremely rigid structure. * Lubrication system for guides, oil-fed, with automatic machine stop. * Renishaw tool probe. * BT 50 spindle taper. * 18.5 kW high-torque motor. * Cutting power of 580 N/m. * Chip evacuation capacity of 540 cm/min. * Automatic Okuma IGF OSP300 conversational programming system. * Automatic force control and tool consumption monitoring. * Parameterized automatic tool collision avoidance system. * Communication ports via USB, PCMCIA card, and RS 232. * Tool life management and tool consumption monitoring. * Automatic control of tool torque and stresses. * Table dimensions: 2,200 x 850 mm. * Permissible weight: 2,500 kg. * Spindle speed: 6,000 rpm. * X-axis travel: 2,050 mm. * Y-axis travel: 850 mm. * Z-axis travel: 750 mm. * Oil cooler for the spindle. * Rapid traverse speed: 20,000 mm/min. * Tool storage for 36 tools. * Tool change time: 0.5 seconds. * Chip-to-chip time: 5 seconds. * Independent Knoll coolant system with 70 bar pressure. * 30-micron anti-particle filter system. * LTA fume extraction equipment. * Rear chip extractors, hinged type. * Machine currently in production. * Inspectable by a qualified, certified Okuma technician. * Near-new condition. * Extensive range of BT 50 tool holders. * Electrical transformer, documentation, parts list, electrical diagrams, programming and operations manual. * Machine weight: 20,500 kg. * Immediate delivery, unless sold prior. Nsdpfx Aajz Alh Njzelg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Traverses X Y Z: 1020 x 510 x 510mm, Table 1200 x 450mm, Spindle speed 8,000rpm, Nodpfx Aaoy Tka Uozolg Spindle taper BT40, Spindle Motor 11kW, Fanuc Oi-MC Control, 24 Station ATC, Coolant, Low Volt light, swarf conveyor

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, CNC Vertical Machining Center “DECKEL MAHO M 1” Nsdjz A D Dmopfx Aazolg With Siemens 828 D Shop Mill control Year of manufacture: 2022, Commissioning: 9/2023 Travel ranges: X 550, Y 550, Z 510 Spindle speed range: 20 – 12,000 rpm, stepless With the following accessories: Fixed angular table, 850 mm x 650 mm clamping surface Vertical tool changer with 24 magazine positions (SK 40) IKZ 20 bar Electronic handwheel 3D measuring probe Renishaw PP 40 Tool length measurement Renishaw TS27R Full protection enclosure with sliding doors and interior lighting Coolant system Chip conveyor Oil mist extraction Coolant spray gun 3 adjustable machine feet Operating manuals THE MACHINE IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION!

Condition: excellent (used), Grinder With Pre Flaker/breaker Make: Laska Nlsdpfx Ajzl Exteazeg Model: ww200 1999 With loader Fully serviced, Overhauled, full working order

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2020, Manufacturer: Marel Model: Active Mixer 200 Year: 2020 Condition: Used Serial number: 10446009 Stock number: 3302 Mixer capacity: 200 litres Nledpfxez Er Dao Aazjg Water pressure: 2 - 5 Bar Power: 3 x 400V, 50Hz, 7kW Dimensions: 1250 x 950 x 1800 mm Weight: 400 kg Semi-automatic tempura and batter mixer with programmable recipe management.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2006, operating hours: 9,039 h, functionality: fully functional, total height: 2,992 mm, total length: 3,980 mm, total width: 2,580 mm, overall weight: 8,500 kg, operating hours of spindle: 671 h, number of slots in tool magazine: 48, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, We offer this as new Quaser MV154 APC/P vertical machining center, year of construction 2006. The machine has 9039 power-on hours, but only 671 spindle-hours, this has been confirmed in the parameters aswell. The machine has seen very little usage. When i bought this machine the linear guides for the X & Y axis was worn out as they had not been lubricated properly and with the incorrect grease. These have been swapped for brand new ones, aswell as most of the air and coolant hoses. All the lubricating lines for the X & Y guides and ballscrews have also been renewed. There are some tools in the 48 tool magazine aswell. It also has a 3D Taster. The chip conveyor also has new bearings and seals. Two Hilma vices could also come with the machine. I have done a ballbar test and checked the machine to be in great working order. Nlodpezxz Dfjfx Aazsg The size of the machine also makes transportation easy, as it will fit inside a standard curtain semitrailer. If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, operating hours: 1,500 h, USED Akira Seiki 1600XP Fanuc 0iMF Open Fronted Vertical Machining Centre with Fanuc Ex Stock - Subject to Prior Sale. YOM 2020, Machine with Very Low Hours Usage. Approx 1500 Hours  12,000 RPM Spindle with Refrigeration System  36 Station Arm Type ATC  Full Splash Guard  Fully Integrated Detron GXA-255h 4th Axis Nc Rotary Table with SR255H Tailstock Support Unit Nodpju A U Nksfx Aazelg  Chip Conveyor & Chip Bin (Scraper Type)  Chip Flushing System Including Coolant Wash Gun  Through Spindle Coolant System - 35 Bars with Filter  Fanuc Memory Extension - 2 Mb  Fanuc 10.4 “ Screen with Manual Guide-I  Coolant Tank Capacity - 640 Litres  THK Heavy Duty Linear Guideways  Manual Pulse Generator  3 Colour Signal Lamp  Automatic Lubrication System  Rigid Tapping & Helical Interpolation Function TABLE Working Surface 1,750 X 800 MM Tee Slots 18 x 125 x 6.0 MM Spindle Nose to Table 100 ~ 915 MM Spindle Centre to Column 865 MM Table Load Capacity 2,300 KGS TRAVEL X-Axis Travel 1,630 MM Y-Axis Travel 850 MM Z-Axis Travel 815 MM SPINDLE Spindle Nose Taper BT-40 Spindle Speed - Max 12,000 RPM FEED Rapid Traverse (X & Y-Axis) 33 M / MIN Rapid Traverse (Z-Axis) 25 M / MIN Cutting Feedrates - Max 12 M / MIN ACCURACIES Positioning 0.01 MM Repeatability + - 0.003 MM ATC Tool Storage Capacity ARM TYPE - 36 STATIONS Maximum Tool Weight 7.0 KGS Tool Diameter - Max 75 MM Tool Length - Max 250 MM Tool Shank BT-40 Tool Exchange Time 2.2 SEC MOTOR Spindle Drive Motor (FANUC) 18.5 KW POWER SUPPLY Voltage 415V / 3PH / 50HZ Power Requirement 30.0 KVA MACHINE DIMENSIONS Machine Floor Space Requirement 4,820 x 3,576 MM Machine Weight 12,600 KG

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, total length: 1,205 mm, total width: 1,000 mm, total height: 1,890 mm, REF: MM6147 Nodpfex Tg Axox Aazjlg 30 x Stainless-steel hanging racks for curing meat, previously used for hanging chorizo. These racks can be stacked one on top of each other. Overall dimensions - 1205mm long x 1000mm wide x 1890mm high. 

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Traverses X Y Z: 660 x 510 x 560mm, Table size 840mm x 560mm, spindle speed 8,000rpm, 11kW spindle motor, Heidenhain TNC530i, Spindle taper BT40, Nledpfx Aaowc Twuszjg 20 station ATC, coolant,

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, control SIEMENS - 840 D Njdpfsz Dxrzsx Aazolg - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5-axis simultaneous machining center | SPINNER - U 620 equipped with ITC, NC swivel rotary table, tool changer & chip conveyor. The machine is in a well-maintained condition. Technical data of the machine will follow soon. We ask for your understanding ! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - #Tags: U620| U-620

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2003, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 800 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 600 mm, feed length X-axis: 3,200 mm, feed length Y-axis: 800 mm, feed length Z-axis: 600 mm, feed rate X-axis: 30 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 30 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 30 m/min, controller manufacturer: HEIDENHAIN, controller model: TNC 530, workpiece weight (max.): 3,300 kg, table width: 750 mm, table height: 720 mm, table length: 3,900 mm, rotary table diameter: 315 mm, overall weight: 16,500 kg, spindle speed (min.): 30 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 25,000 W, spindle nose: ISO 40 DIN 69871, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 30, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, - Lowered worktable by 185 mm - Spindle-to-table distance: 325/925 mm - Maximum tool length: 330 mm Njdpfszycawox Aazslg - 4-position PICK UP tool changer station for drills with a length of up to 700 mm - Coolant system with passage through the spindle at 30 bar, with paper filter - Drag-type chip conveyor - CNC table diameter: 315 mm - Prepared for indexing operations - CE marking

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, machine/vehicle number: 7405_408, functionality: fully functional, operating hours: 788 h, HOLZ-HER Evolution 7405 White Edition CNC Machining Center for Sale For sale is a well-maintained HOLZ-HER Evolution 7405 White Edition, manufactured in 2016. The machine is in very good technical and optical condition and can be demonstrated while powered on. The exceptionally low processing hours of only 788 hours with active feed are particularly noteworthy. In 2021, the machine was professionally serviced and completely realigned by the manufacturer. Since then, it has been used only sparingly and, as a result, runs smoothly, precisely, and reliably. Nlsdpfey Sicxsx Aazeg Technical Data Manufacturer: HOLZ-HER Model: Evolution 7405 White Edition Year of Manufacture: 2016 Machine Number: 7405_408 Software / Control CAMPUS Version: 6.4.4.2 NC-Hops Version: 6.6.2.207 Operating Hours Active Feed / Processing Hours: only 788 h Machine ON: 6,723 h Equipment 4-MAT Version Drilling unit with 15 spindles Sawing and grooving unit Milling unit with 6-position tool changer Handheld control unit Vertical and horizontal machining Vacuum clamping system Ideally suited for: Furniture manufacturing Interior design Kitchen manufacturing Carpentry shops CNC entry-level or capacity expansion Condition Very well-maintained overall condition Regularly serviced Professionally realigned by the manufacturer in 2021 Only slight use since then Immediately ready for use Runs very smoothly and precisely No known technical defects The machine can be inspected and tested while in operation. Availability Available from week 25/2026. Inspection possible by appointment. Assistance with loading and transport organization is possible. Price Negotiable: €40,000 net

Condition: refurbished (used), Meat processing line to produce a coarse sausage mix / burger mix / pet food line Taking a tempered frozen meat block into a Guillotine Giraffe feed up into a mincer, Mincer to coarse mince flaked meat Incline conveyor taking minced meat through a 10 mm to 16 mm hole plate Minced meat transferred by the conveyor into the Mixer Grinder Add seasoning / water etc to complete the recipe Mix in the mixer grinder for 3 to 5 minutes Mince out through a 5 mm to 8 mm hole plate into a tote bin. Ruhle Guillotine Scansteel Giraffe Feeder Laska WW 130 2 Cross feed Mincer Incline conveyor Nsdpozl Tb Nefx Aazslg Thompson 4000 Mixer Grinder Product ready for the next stage vacuum filler / tray depositor / burger former etc

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2012, operating hours: 4,541 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: SN:79004, travel distance X-axis: 1,035 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 540 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 620 mm, feed rate X-axis: 35 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 35 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 35 m/min, nominal power (apparent): 14 kVA, torque: 96 Nm, controller manufacturer: Heidenhain, controller model: TNC 620, workpiece weight (max.): 1,000 kg, total height: 2,850 mm, total length: 2,500 mm, total width: 2,910 mm, table width: 540 mm, table length: 1,200 mm, table load: 1,000 kg, rotational speed (min.): 10 rpm, rotational speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, overall weight: 5,100 kg, spindle speed (min.): 10 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, operating hours of spindle: 4,541 h, coolant supply: 3 bar, distance table to spindle center: 150 mm, spindle motor power: 1,400 W, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 24, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: AC, Equipment: documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, The machine is in excellent condition and is almost like new. It has been used almost exclusively for aluminum prototype construction. Disassembly upon request. Here are all the details from the technical description. SN: 79004, Year: 2012 Commissioned: February 2014 UVA 1035 PLUS Heidenhain Vertical machining center with HEIDENHAIN TNC 620 control, new price, after discount, net 79,900.00 Standard equipment of the UVA 1035 PLUS as ex works: - Computer-optimized, vibration-damping machine base made of gray cast iron - Large linear guides with 45 mm width in all axes Description Overall price - CNC control Heidenhain TNC 620 - Ergonomically arranged control panel with electronic handwheel - Digital Heidenhain drives in all axes - Ball screws (supported on both sides and preloaded) diameter 40 mm - Pitch 12 mm in all axes - Rapid traverse rate 35 m/min in all axes - Guide covers (telescopic) in all axes - Spindle taper SK 40 DIN 69871 A - Tool pull stud DIN 69872 - Main drive with 13 kW, 96 Nm - Main spindle speed range 10 - 10,000 1/min - Preparation for internal cooling 20 bar - Tool changer (dual-arm gripper) with 24 storage locations - Work area full protection with large viewing doors and 2 work area lights - Large coolant tank with 380 l capacity - 2 chip drawers for easy and quick manual chip disposal - Flood coolant 3 bar / 60 l/min - Chip flushing in the work area - Spray gun for cleaning the inside of the machine - Signal light 2-color - Festo pneumatic system - Automatic central lubrication in all axes - All axes: Positioning accuracy +/- 0.005 mm - Repeat accuracy +/- 0.003 mm (ISO 230-3) - Painting in light gray (RAL 7035) and blue gray (RAL 7031) - Documentation - UVA Unverzagt machining centers comply with the CE standard UVA 1035 PLUS Heidenhain Technical details of the machine Travel ranges Travel X-axis [mm] 1,035 Travel Y-axis [mm] 540 Travel Z-axis [mm] 620 Distance spindle bottom edge to table [mm] 150 - 770 Work table Table length [mm] 1,200 Table width [mm] 540 Number of T-slots 5 Slot width [mm] 18 Table load max. [kg] 1,000 Feed Rapid traverse X and Y axis [m/min] 35 Rapid traverse Z axis [m/min] 35 Diameter ball screw X and Y axis [mm] 40 Diameter ball screw Z axis [mm] 40 Main spindle Main spindle speed max. [1/min] 10,000 Main spindle power [S6-40% ED kW] 14 Main spindle torque max. [Nm] [S6-25%] 96 Tool holder SK 40 Tool magazine Number of tool magazine positions 24 Tool change time [sec] 2.8 max. tool diameter [mm] 80 max. tool length [mm] 300 max. tool weight [kg] 7 Coolant system Volume coolant tank [l] 380 Through coolant pressure [bar] 3 Through coolant [l/min] 60 Internal coolant supply pressure [bar] 20 (optional) Nedpfxjzzrmpj Aazjlg Air blow external yes Basic machine data Installation area width [mm] 2,910 Installation area depth [mm] 2,500 Machine height [mm] 2,850 Weight of the basic machine [kg] 5,100 Electrical connection power [kVA] 30 Required pneumatic connection [bar] 6 Required compressed air [l/min] 260 Control Manufacturer Heidenhain Control type TNC 620

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: Zsk 119 mc+, type of input current: three-phase, total length: 11,000 mm, year of last overhaul: 2024, total width: 1,500 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, overall weight: 18,000 kg, Coperion extruder, 1200 hp (930 kW), 380 volts, 50 Hz. Designed for high-moisture extrusion (TVP or HMMA, high-moisture meat analogue), with an output of 1 to 10 tons/hour. Screw diameter: 2 x 118 mm; ABB inverter for the 1200 hp motor; liquid dosing system; solid dosing system; control panel. Also available: Urchel cutting device and rotary IQF freezer. Nlsdpfx Aaszti Tkozeg This extruder can also be used for dry or wet pet food. This equipment has very few operating hours.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, functionality: fully functional, 1 x Glass GbmH mixer marinator for delicate food products, with manual tilting and multi-functional control display. Fitted on mobile frame. Suitable for semi-solid, powdery and liquid products. Model / Type - VSM 150. Serial number - 4174 Date of manufacture - 2019. Capacity - 150 litres. Electric supply - 400 V / 50 hz / 3 phase. Nljdjvuhiqspfx Aazjg Power - 16 Amps.

Year of construction: 2015, condition: excellent (used), vertical automatic flat glass sand blasting machine with 4 air guns working height : 2000 mm OPEN TOP Nlsdpfx Aaez Dt T Tezjg including air compressor and dryer . voltage : 230/400 V 50 Hz

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, DECKEL MAHO - DMU 125 T Offer Details Stock Number: 1039-8230 Machine Type: Machining Center - Vertical Manufacturer: DECKEL MAHO Type: DMU 125 T Year of Construction: 1999 Control: TNC 430 Heidenhain Location: D-59302 Oelde Country of Origin: Germany Delivery Time: Upon agreement Incoterms: EXW (Ex Works) Additional Information: CNC - Vertical Machining Center DECKEL MAHO - DMU 125 T Technical Details X-axis travel: 1,250 mm Y-axis travel: 880 mm Z-axis travel: 800 mm Control: TNC 430 Heidenhain Main Spindle: Spindle Speed Range: max. 12,000 min/-1 Drive Power - Main Spindle: 15 / 10 kW Max. Torque: 500 Nm Tool Holder: SK 40 Work Table: Table Clamping Surface: 1,500 x 1,050 mm Max. Table Load: 2,500 kg Number of T-slots: 10 T-slots - Width: 18 H7 mm T-slots - Pitch: 100 mm Tool Changer: Number of Tool Positions: 60 Max. Tool Diameter: 80 mm Max. Tool Diameter with free adjacent position: 160 mm Max. Tool Length: 315 mm Nlodpfozfzgtsx Aazog Max. Tool Weight: 8 kg Max. Total Weight: 100 kg Feeds: Rapid Traverse (X / Y / Z): 15 m/min Feed Rate: 10,000 mm/min Total Power Consumption: 29 kW Machine Weight (approx.): 16.0 t Space Requirement (approx.): 7.0 x 5.0 x 3.3 m Accessories Documentation Chip Conveyor Coolant System Tool Changer

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2010, Used machine in top condition – training machine – Year of manufacture: 2010 Digital display in Y Nedpfx Aozzfr Esazelg Equipment and technical data Cutting length: 3300 mm Cutting height: 2200 mm (edge trimming height 2110 mm) Cutting depth: max. 60 mm Extraction: - Saw unit 120 mm - Lath grid 100 mm Workpiece support: - Sturdy plastic support for optimal stability, even for narrow workpieces. Tilting roller transport system: Manual for easy and material-friendly transport Locking: Manual, vertical and horizontal Feed: Manual, vertical and horizontal Circular saw blade: Diameter: 250 mm Saw motor: 4 kW at 5450 rpm, 400 V, 50 Hz Folding guide rail: incl. workpiece support for narrow parts with strip stop Dust extraction system in accordance with BG guidelines TRK (below 2 mg of fine dust / m³ of air) Availability: immediate Location: 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,050 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 530 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 510 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 42 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 42 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 42 m/min, nominal power (apparent): 11 kVA, workpiece weight (max.): 8 kg, total height: 2,808 mm, total length: 2,880 mm, total width: 2,929 mm, table width: 550 mm, table length: 1,300 mm, table load: 1,200 kg, rotational speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, overall weight: 6,800 kg, operating hours of spindle: 16,024 h, spindle nose: 150-660, tool length: 350 mm, tool diameter: 80 mm, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: chip conveyor, Mazak Vertical Machining Center VCS 530C – well-maintained, inspected & ready for operation For sale is a Mazak VCS 530C vertical machining center in well-kept, technically flawless condition. The machine has always been serviced regularly and is in very good visual and technical condition. It is fully functional, thoroughly inspected, and immediately ready for operation. With our all-inclusive service package, we personally handle the entire process for you upon request – from delivery right up to commissioning your new machine. This includes unloading, setting up, and aligning the machining center. Afterwards, our experienced service technicians will carry out professional commissioning, perform all necessary function checks, and ensure that your Mazak VCS 530C runs reliably and precisely. We also offer customized training sessions for your employees, so you can utilize the machine optimally from day one. Even after installation, we continue to support you – whether with maintenance, technical inquiries, or future expansions. With our all-inclusive package, you don’t have to worry about a thing – we ensure everything runs smoothly so you can focus entirely on your production. Additionally, you can purchase extraction units, attachments, and accessories from us, including high-quality Donaldson extraction systems to make your production more efficient and cleaner. Nedpfexuqrksx Aazjlg Our service commitment: Quality, expertise, and customer satisfaction are our top priorities. Our team consists of qualified and experienced technicians, specialized in Mazak machines as well as other brands. We place great value on personal support and are happy to assist you at any time, even after your purchase. You are also welcome to visit and inspect the machine under power at our facility. You’re cordially invited to see the condition and functionality for yourself on site. With us, you’re in the best hands – professional, reliable, and passionate about machines! PS CNC Service Germany GmbH & Co. KG All details without guarantee.

Condition: excellent (used), Dugard Eagle 850VMC (ML946E06), Fanuc Oi, 4th Axis & Tailstock, Toolchanger, Nljdpfx Ajwx Hlwjazeg Year 2011 X / Y / Z travel: 850×520×510mm Table size: 1,000×510mm Max table load: 500kg Spindle taper: BT40 Spindle speed: 80–8,000rpm; Spindle power: 11kW continuous, 15kW peak Rapid traverse: X30m/min, Y30m/min, Z24m/min; cutting feedrates up to 10000mm/min Machine footprint/weight: approx. 2.30×2.12×2.58m; 5.5tonnes

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2011, Fish Skinning Machine Make: Nock Model: TFE350 2011 Refrigerated drum, with built in compressor With various spares Nsdoycklzepfx Aazolg

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 1994, travel distance X-axis: 630 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 426 mm, overall weight: 6,500 kg, number of slots in tool magazine: 20, FZ18W magnum rotary indexing table, Fanuc OM control BT40 spindle, maximum spindle speed 8,000 RPM 20-tool changer Nodpfx Aaozbal Iszslg 2 tables Nikken dividing head

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, Offered is a Bizerba FK-32 bone saw band saw, built in 2011. The machine is fully functional. Nlodpfx Aaev Npbqjzsg Further details available upon request. Cash or prepayment! Sale to businesses only. No guarantee or warranty.