Used Linde H50T/600 Evo for sale (14,760)

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 26160, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 13,578 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 4,400 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: simplex, construction height: 3,140 mm, Device details: Year of manufacture: 2018 Load capacity: 5000 kg Lift height: 4400 mm Recorded operating hours: 13,578 h Mast type: Standard Mast height: 3,140 mm Length/width/height: 3,196 / 1,448 / 2,430 mm Operating weight: 7,060 kg ---- Equipment: * Overhead guard * 3rd valve * Semi-cab * Front work lights * Rear work lights ---- Additional equipment information: Bluespot Reverse alarm Beacon ---- The operating hours stated refer to the hours read from the meter. We are happy to offer suitable transportation for you. A further 250 - 300 forklifts, attachments, and sweepers are immediately available. Ledpfx Afjxm S Dfsworr Rental options available as well! We are happy to buy your OLD machine. Any questions? You can reach us during our business hours from 7:30 am to 4:00 pm. We look forward to hearing from you! We speak English. Subject to prior sale and errors in this offer. In B2B transactions, the device is sold as is, unrefurbished. All information is provided without guarantee; errors and changes excepted.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 8,734 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 5,565 mm, free lift: 1,860 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,876 mm, fork carriage width: 1,350 mm, fork length: 1,600 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 1,350 mm, Diesel Forklift Load Centre: 500 ISO Class: ISO Class 3 = 2,500 - 4,999 kg Mast Type: Triplex Transmission: Hydrostatic / 2-pedal Speed Class: 20 Condition: Refurbished, no warranty Technical Condition: Good Front Tyres Type: Superelastic Front Tyres Size: 355/65-15 NEW Front Tyres Condition: 80 - 100% Lsdpfx Afjy I Ehvoworr Rear Tyres Type: Superelastic Rear Tyres Size: 250-15 NEW Rear Tyres Condition: 80 - 100% Description: Handover with new FEM 4.004 inspection including inspection booklet. Should you have any further questions, please feel free to call us. In addition to this model, we have around 150 other industrial trucks in stock. Visit our homepage at fleischmann-foerdertechnik. Leasing & financing as well as delivery at favourable conditions can be arranged upon request. We will also consider trade-ins of Linde equipment – even if you do not purchase a unit from us. Listed operating hours were read off at the time of listing. Subject to prior sale, changes, and errors. Sideshift fork, side shifter, fork positioner, Durwen fork positioner with separate side shifter 3rd valve, 4th valve, rear working light, front working light, heater, soot filter, full cabin, safety light, seat heating, Comfort air-cushioned seat with seat heating, foldable left door

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 13,501 h, load capacity: 1,600 kg, lifting height: 4,625 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,150 mm, fork length: 1,200 mm, empty load weight: 3,400 kg, Equipment: UVV, lighting, sideshift, Triplex mast with full free lift, overall height: 2150 mm, lift height: 4625 mm, integrated side shifter, fork length: 1200 mm, LED work lights front and rear, blue warning light, manual single-pedal transmission, 48V/625Ah battery from 2018, SE tires, operating manual included. Technical condition at the time of sale: Forklift has been technically overhauled! Major service newly performed! (Timing belt and water pump also replaced) UVV inspection passed without any defects! Forklift newly painted! Delivery: In perfect condition! Lrodpfx Afotvw Rhjwsr 20 years of professional experience! INSPECTION AND TEST DRIVE: By appointment at any time during opening hours: Monday to Friday. From 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. TRANSPORT: Low-loader or covered truck available at a reasonable price.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H2X392J01741, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 7,150 h, load capacity: 2,000 kg, lifting height: 3,270 mm, free lift: 1,500 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,210 mm, fork length: 1,200 mm, empty load weight: 3,635 kg, drive type: Diesel, Diesel forklift Chassis number: H2X392J01741 Load center: 600 ISO class: ISO Class 2 = 1,000 - 2,500 kg Mast type: Duplex Condition: Ready for use and fully functional Technical condition: very good Front tire type: Superelastic Front tire condition: 80 - 100% Rear tire type: Superelastic Rear tire condition: 80 - 100% Description: Workshop-inspected with UVV approval Side shifter, 3rd valve, rear work light, front work light, half cabin, CE certificate, interior mirror, windshield wiper, single-pedal operation, 4 headlights in front, 1 headlight in the rear, BlueSpot in the rear, door on the right, flashing beacon Lrodpfszgpb Uox Afwsr

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 13,517 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 4,225 mm, free lift: 1,360 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,376 mm, drive type: Treibgas, LPG forklift ISO class: ISO class 3 = 2,500 - 4,999 kg Mast type: Triplex Condition: Ready for operation and fully functional Technical condition: good Description: Half cabin Side shifter, 3rd valve, 4th valve, Lrjdpfx Afsxi Emrjwsr

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 14,725 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 3,750 mm, free lift: 150 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: simplex, construction height: 2,870 mm, fork carriage width: 1,500 mm, fork length: 1,200 mm, drive type: Diesel, construction width: 1,350 mm, Diesel forklift Load center: 600 mm ISO Class: ISO Class 3 = 2,500 - 4,999 kg Mast type: Standard Transmission: Dual pedal Speed class: 20 Condition: Refurbished, without warranty Technical condition: Good Front tire type: Pneumatic Front tire size: 300-15 Front tire condition: 80–100% Rear tire type: Pneumatic Rear tire size: 250-15 Rear tire condition: 80–100% Description: Handover with new FEM 4.004 inspection including inspection booklet / NEW maintenance. Ledpey Uz S Dofx Afwerr If you have further questions, feel free to call us. In addition to this model, we have approximately 150 other industrial trucks in stock. Visit our website fleischmann-foerdertechnik. We are happy to assist with leasing & financing, as well as delivery at favorable terms upon request. We also accept Linde equipment as a trade-in, even if you do not purchase a machine from us. Indicated operating hours were read at the time of listing. Subject to prior sale, changes, and errors. Sideshift, Fork positioner, Kaup integrated fork positioner with sideshift 3rd valve, 4th valve, rear work light, front work light, heater, soot filter, road approval (STVZO), full cab, air conditioning, safety light, single pedal, seat heating, LED, Comfort seat with PVC air suspension and seat heating.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H2X392J01734, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 5,848 h, load capacity: 2,000 kg, lifting height: 3,270 mm, free lift: 1,500 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,210 mm, fork length: 1,200 mm, empty load weight: 3,640 kg, drive type: Diesel, Diesel forklift Chassis number: H2X392J01734 Load centre: 600 mm ISO class: ISO class 2 = 1,000 - 2,500 kg Mast type: Duplex Condition: Ready for operation and fully functional Technical condition: Very good Front tyres type: Super elastic Front tyres condition: 80 - 100% Lsdpfxsyp Uknj Afworr Rear tyres type: Super elastic Rear tyres condition: 80 - 100% Description: Workshop inspected with UVV approval Side shifter, 3rd valve, rear work light, front work light, full cabin, CE certificate, interior mirror, windscreen wiper, 4x front headlights, 1x rear headlight, BlueSpot at rear

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 26018/1, operating hours: 24,390 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 4,450 mm, load center: 500 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: mono, construction height: 2,850 mm, motor manufacturer: VW, gearing type: hydrostat, front tire type: pneumatic tires (air-filled), rear tire type: cushion tires (black), Equipment: lighting, sideshift, Tele free-view mast, build height: 2850 mm, lift height: 4450 mm, fork positioner with sideshift, road lighting according to STVO, LED work lights front and rear, fully enclosed cab with heating (left door missing!), VW LPG engine, dual pedal foot control, 4x pneumatic tires front, SE tires rear, operating manual included. Technical condition upon sale: Forklift has been technically overhauled! Major service newly carried out! UVV inspection newly passed without defects! Delivery: In perfect condition! 20 years of professional experience! Lredpfxoy I Dn Uj Afwer

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H2X386V04119, Year of construction: 2019, load capacity: 1,800 kg, lifting height: 4,625 mm, free lift: 1,519 mm, load center: 500 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,120 mm, motor manufacturer: Linde, battery manufacturer: Hoppecke, battery model: 5PzS775Ah, battery capacity: 775 Ah, battery voltage: 48 V, front tire type: superelastic tires (black), rear tire type: superelastic tires (black), empty load weight: 2,585 kg, total length: 2,471 mm, total width: 1,172 mm, color: red, Linde E18PH EVO Electric – Ready to Work Linde E18PH EVO electric forklift from 2019, with 9,308 operating hours, and a complete technical inspection performed by our own workshop. Thanks to its 1,800 kg load capacity and its Triplex mast with a maximum lifting height of 4,625 mm, it is an ideal machine for work in warehouses, logistics centers, and industrial facilities that require agile, precise, and emission-free equipment. This unit features an integrated side shifter, 3rd hydraulic valve, LED lights, windshield with wipers, a panoramic Panzerglass roof, and new SE front and rear tires, offering greater comfort for the operator and excellent performance in daily work. Lrsdpfx Afjznlkhowor It is delivered with a 48V Hoppecke 5PzS775Ah battery (2019). If you prefer to equip it with a new battery or other features depending on its intended use, we can prepare a no-obligation quote for you. Main features: Rated capacity: 1,800 kg Triplex mast Maximum lift: 4,625 mm Free lift: 1,519 mm Integrated side shifter 3rd hydraulic valve 4 tires

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 26017, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 11,902 h, load capacity: 2,500 kg, lifting height: 3,350 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: simplex, construction height: 2,400 mm, Equipment: cabin, sideshift, .: 26017 Equipment Details: Year of Manufacture: 2018 Lift Capacity: 2500 kg Lift Height: 3350 mm Operating Hours: 11902 h Mast Type: Standard Mast Height: 2400 mm Length/Width/Height: 2670 / 1310 / 2220 mm Operating Weight: 4480 kg ---- Equipment: * Canopy * 3rd Valve * 4th Valve * Full Cab * Front Work Lights * Rear Work Lights ----- Attachments: * Sideshift ---- Further Equipment Information: Bluespot Flashlight ---- The operating hours are generally based on the readings. We would be happy to offer you the appropriate transport. Another 250-300 forklifts, attachments, and sweepers are available for immediate delivery. Also available for rent! We'd be happy to buy your old one. Ledev Upz Ujpfx Afwjrr Do you have any questions? You can reach us during our business hours from 7:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. We look forward to hearing from you! We speak English This offer is subject to prior sale and errors. The equipment is sold in its current condition, not refurbished, at the dealership. All information is provided without guarantee, errors, and changes excepted.

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 3,635 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 4,615 mm, free lift: 1,510 mm, load center: 600 mm, fuel type: gas, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,526 mm, fork length: 1,500 mm, Equipment: cabin, lighting, pallet forks, sideshift, For sale: Very nice Linde H50 LPG forklift. The truck is in top condition and truly like new! - Year of manufacture: 2018 - Operating hours: 3635 - Triplex mast with 1510mm free lift Lredpey Edw Dofx Afwer - Overall height: 2526mm - Lifting height: 4615mm - Fork length: 1500mm - Integrated sideshift - Kaup fork positioner - Gas bottle rack for 2 bottles - Front and rear bluespots - Full cab - LED work lights - Radio

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 15,140 h, lifting height: 3,700 mm, fuel type: diesel, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,800 mm, Linde H50D-02/600 Duplo 370, Side-Shift, Cab, VW Diesel, 2019 A video can be sent via WhatsApp. We have a continuous stock; see our website. Prices are quoted ex Nuland. Lsdpszpyp Uefx Afwerr Van de Wert Trading B.V. has a varying stock of machines, trucks, trailers, and attachments. All our deliveries are at trade prices in AS-IS condition without any guarantees (see our general terms and conditions). You can make a non-binding appointment for a viewing and/or test drive. Please call in advance, as we are not always on site. Van de Wert Trading B.V. Bedrijfsstraat 3 5391 LR Nuland

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2023, Dual-fuel burner Elco 3980kw EKEVO 7.3600 GL Weishaupt Ljdpfx Afewrlayswsrr

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 4,316 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, fuel type: gas, Equipment: cabin, Linde H50 T-02 EVO Lrjdpszu D E Refx Afwjr Hydraulic side shift, cabin, seat heating.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 9,588 h, load capacity: 1,600 kg, lifting height: 4,600 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,120 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 16 - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Pyroban 3G / Zone 2 * Mast: 3F4600 ID: 26083.5746 Category: Used Mast: 3F Lowered height: 2120 mm Lifting height: 4600 mm Capacity: 1600 kg Year: 2016 Hours: 9588 hours Capacity: 48v / 625ah * Year of manufacture 2017 Options: * EX * Atex - Pyroban !!!! System / Certificate = S6000 E Gas group = IIB Type = 3G (allowed in ZONE 2) Temperature class = T3 Equipped with: - CONTAINER specifications!! - Joystick control for forward and reverse - Triplex - FFL mast - Stainless steel and fork spreader - Windshield, roof window and rear window (FULL cabin = Possible!!) Lodpfx Afszv Rtkewjrr - Spotlights

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 9,370 h, fuel type: diesel, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,200 mm, Linde H20D-02/600 triple 460 Freelift / Sideshift / Fork Adjuster, 2017, VW Diesel, 9370 hours. A video can be sent via WhatsApp. We have a continuous stock; see our website. Prices are quoted ex Nuland. Lredpjzq D Nbsfx Afwer Van de Wert Trading B.V. has a varying stock of machines, trucks, trailers, and attachments. All our deliveries are offered at trade prices in AS-IS condition without guarantees (see our general terms and conditions). You can make a non-binding appointment for a viewing and/or test drive. Please call in advance; we are not always on site. Van de Wert Trading B.V. Bedrijfsstraat 3 5391 LR Nuland

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H2X387V03910, Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 6,115 h, load capacity: 3,000 kg, lifting height: 4,495 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: simplex, construction height: 2,924 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Lrjdpfxszu Ng Hs Afwer TECHNICAL DETAILS Load capacity: 3,000 kg Lifting height: 4,495 mm ISO class: 3 (2,500–4,999 kg) MACHINE DETAILS Mast type: Simplex Fuel type: Electric Rated drive power: 2 × 9 kW Battery voltage: 80 V Battery weight: 1,480–1,636 kg Overall height: 2,924 mm Dead weight: 4,150 kg EQUIPMENT Side shifter Fork positioner Heater Full cab

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 6,410 h, load capacity: 1,600 kg, lifting height: 3,140 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,120 mm, Manufacturer & model: LINDE E 16 PL - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 2G / Zone 1 Mast: 2F3140 ID: 25072.7804 Category: Used Mast: 2F Lowered height: 2120 mm Lifting height: 3140 mm Capacity: 1600 kg Year: 2016 Operating hours: 6410 h Battery: Completely NEW * 48V/625Ah * Year 2025 Options: CONTAINER specs!! * EX * Proplan !!!!! System = INERIS 08 ATEX 3022 X Lodpfx Afezv Rxtewjrr Gas group = IIB Type = Cat. 2G (approved for ZONE 1 and 2) Temperature class = T4 Equipped with: - Complete road lighting - Work spotlights - Joystick control for forward/reverse - 2D - FFL mast - New tyres (ATEX specs)

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 5,557 h, load capacity: 1,800 kg, lifting height: 3,140 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,013 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 18 - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 3G / Zone 2 * Mast: 3F4600 ID: 26105.9585 Category: Used Mast: 2F Lowered height: 2130 mm Lifting height: 3140 mm Capacity: 1800 kg Lrsdpszv Rtdjfx Afwjr Year: 2017 Hours: 5557 hours Capacity: Complete NEW * 48v / 625ah * Manufactured 08/2026 Options: * EX * Proplan !!!!! System / Certificate = TUV 13 ATEX 7446 X Gas group = IIB Type = Cat 3G (approved for ZONE 2) Temperature class = T4 Equipped with: - CONTAINER specifications!! - LINDE control system - Duo pedal! - 2 D - FFL mast - LOW cabin < 2000 MM !!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 6,368 h, load capacity: 1,600 kg, lifting height: 3,140 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,120 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 16 PL - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 2G / Zone 1 Mast: 2F3140 ID: 25072.7896 Category: Used Mast: 2F Lowered height: 2120 mm Lifting height: 3140 mm Capacity: 1600 kg Year: 2016 Hours: 6368 hours Battery: Complete NEW * 48v/ 625ah * Year of manufacture 2025 Options: CONTAINER specifications!! * EX * Proplan !!!!! System = INERIS 08 ATEX 3022 X Gas group = IIB Type = Cat 2G (permitted in ZONE 1 and 2) Lredpfozv Rxmex Afwsr Temperature class = T4 Equipped with: - Complete street lighting - Spotlights - Joystick control for forward/reverse - 2D - FFL mast - New tires (ATEX specifications)

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 6,472 h, load capacity: 2,000 kg, lifting height: 4,650 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,130 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 20 L - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 2GD / Zone 1-21-22 * Mast: 3F4650 ID: 26087.5931 Category: Used Mast: 3F4650 Lowered height: 2130 mm Lifting height: 4650 mm Capacity: 2000 kg Year: 2018 Hours: 6472 hours Capacity: Complete NEW * 48v / 625ah * Manufactured 02/2026 Options: * EX * Proplan !!!!! System / Certificate = INERIS 08 ATEX 3022 X Type = Cat 2G (permitted in ZONE 1 & 2) Gas group = IIB Ledpfxozv R Hwo Afwerr Temperature class = T4 Type = Cat 2D (permitted in ZONE 21 & 22 - Dust) Temperature class = T 135 *C - IP 6X Equipped with: - CONTAINER specifications!! - Joystick control for forward and reverse - Triplex FFL mast - Headlights front and rear - Flashing beacon - Blue spot - LOW cabin < 2000 MM!!!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 5,259 h, load capacity: 1,600 kg, lifting height: 3,140 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: duplex, construction height: 2,120 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 16 PL - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 2G / Zone 1 Mast: 2F3140 ID: 25063.0568 Category: Used Mast: 2F Lowered height: 2120 mm Lifting height: 3140 mm Capacity: 1600 kg Year: 2017 Hours: 5259 hours Capacity: Complete NEW * 48v/ 625ah * Manufactured 05/2026 Options: CONTAINER specifications!! Lrjdpfx Afjzv Rxajwer * EX * Proplan !!!!! System = INERIS 08 ATEX 3022 X Gas group = IIB Type = Cat 2G (permitted in ZONE 1 and 2) Temperature class = T4 Equipped with: - Complete street lighting - Floodlights - Joystick control for forward/reverse - 2D - FFL mast - New tires (ATEX specifications)

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H2X388H01427, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 5,035 h, load capacity: 4,000 kg, lifting height: 3,200 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: simplex, construction height: 2,454 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Electric forklift with new tires! TECHNICAL DETAILS Load capacity: 4,000 kg Lifting height: 3,200 mm ISO class: 3 Tires: New MACHINE DETAILS Mast type: Simplex Fuel type: Electric Battery voltage: 80 V Rated drive power: 2 × 12.5 kW Battery weight: 1,770–1,957 kg Overall height: 2,454 mm Unladen weight: 5,505 kg Ledpfx Afszu Nd Sswjrr EQUIPMENT Side shifter Heater Full cabin

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 5,975 h, load capacity: 2,000 kg, lifting height: 4,650 mm, fuel type: electric, mast type: triplex, construction height: 2,130 mm, Manufacturer + model: LINDE E 20 PL - 386 / 02 evo * EX * Proplan 2G / Zone 1 * Mast: 3F4650 Ledpfezv R Hqox Afwjrr ID: 26084.5328 Category: Used Mast: 3F4650 Lowered height: 2130 mm Lifting height: 4650 mm Capacity: 2000 kg Year: 2017 Hours: 5975 hours Capacity: Complete NEW * 48v / 625ah * Manufactured 05/2026 Options: * EX * Proplan !!!!! System / Certificate = INERIS 08 ATEX 3022 X Gas group = IIB Type = Cat 2G (allowed in ZONE 1 and 2) Temperature class = T4 Equipped with: - CONTAINER specifications!! - Joystick control for forward and reverse - Triplex - FFL mast - Stainless steel and fork spreader - Complete street lighting - Windshield and roof window - Headlights front and rear - Flashing beacon - Blue warning light

Condition: not inspected (used), functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: H2Y394L01382, Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 4,782 h, load capacity: 5,000 kg, lifting height: 3,700 mm, free lift: 150 mm, fuel type: gas, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Load capacity: 5,000 kg Lift height: 3,700 mm Overall height: 2,900 mm Free lift: 150 mm MACHINE DETAILS Mast type: Standard Drive type: LPG Battery: 12 V starter battery Operating hours: 4,782 h EQUIPMENT Former Linde full-service unit Safety inspection (UVV) until 02/2027 Next service due in 518 operating hours Note: Mast removal costs €750 net. All dimensions are approximate. No liability is assumed for any writing or measurement errors. COLLECTION CONDITIONS Loading from the side up to 5 t possible on site with large forklift at your own risk. Collection ONLY with email confirmation of payment! Collection WITHOUT prior appointment from Monday to Friday, 7:00 am to 4:30 pm. If the mast is too high for transport, it can be dismantled on request. Lrjdpeytn I Iefx Afwer If the machine is not collected within the agreed deadline, a storage fee of €20 per machine per day applies (additional charges must be paid before collection).