Used Bronse Pre-Stretch Film Rewinder for sale (12,885)

Year of construction: 2026, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, BRONSE UNIVERSA 250 | High-Speed Premium Pre-Stretch & Slitter Rewinder The UNIVERSA 250 is a state-of-the-art, ultra-high-speed fully automatic pre-stretch film rewinder engineered for maximum efficiency, elite component reliability, and advanced industrial conversion. Equipped with cutting-edge technology, it delivers unmatched performance with minimal operator intervention. Unmatched Speed & Pre-Stretch Performance: Ultra-High-Speed Operation: Capable of pre-stretching at an incredible speed of up to 1200 m/min. Up to 400% Pre-Stretch Rate: Advanced stretching mechanism allows for precise pre-stretching up to 400%, maximizing material efficiency. Dual-Stage Pre-Stretch System: Engineered with a specialized dual-stage system that minimizes film neck-in (narrowing) for perfect roll geometry. Carbon Fiber Rewinding Roller: Thanks to the ultra-light and rigid carbon fiber roller design, the machine achieves exceptionally high acceleration (acc) and deceleration (decc) rates, drastically shortening cycle times. Next-Generation Control & Connectivity: Windows-Based Software OS: Driven by an advanced, user-friendly Windows-based software interface for intuitive operation, precise diagnostics, and flexible receipt management. Rcedoy Rd Exopfx Am Ted Wireless Remote Connectivity: Fully supports secure wireless remote access for instant troubleshooting, software updates, and real-time production monitoring. World-Class Components & Automation: Premium Global Hardware: Fully integrated with world-renowned, highly reliable pneumatic and electronic components from industry leaders such as SMC and Omron. Fully Automated Cycle: Features automatic core loading, precise core film affixing, wind-to-length automated film cutting, and automated finished roll removal with smart delivery systems. For detailed technical drawings, customized quotations, and live video demonstrations, please send us an inquiry directly through Machineseeker.

Condition: excellent (used), Mobile pallet wrapping machine with film pre-stretching Inventory No. 3897 Manufacturer: Robopac Type: Robot Master PDS Year of manufacture: 2017 Technical data (approx.): * Wrapping height max. 2200 mm * Max. width unlimited * Min. width approx. 600 mm * Adjustable travel speed * Film width 500 mm * Core diameter max. 76 mm Rcjdpfxszp R Tdj Am Tjd * Weight approx. 340 kg * In very good condition!

Year of construction: 2012, condition: excellent (used), Automatic pallet wrappers Film pre-stretching Inventory No. 3893 Manufacturer: Lantech Redpfx Amezd Hwue Tjcd Type: Q 300 XT * Year of manufacture 2012 * Turntable positioning via fixed stop * Number of bottom and top wraps * Turntable diameter 1650 mm * Max. wrapping height approx. 2030 mm * Own weight approx. 490 kg * In very good condition

Year of construction: 2019, condition: excellent (used), Automatic pallet wrapper Film pre-stretching Inventory no. 3828 Manufacturer: Certis Type C-ONE * Year of manufacture: 2019 * Turntable positioning via Fix-Stop * Number of top and bottom wraps * Turntable diameter: 1650 mm * Max. wrapping height: approx. 2200 mm * Own weight: approx. 450 kg Redpfxjzadbwe Am Tocd * Suitable for Euro pallets and block pallets!!! * In very good condition

Year of construction: 2026, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, BRONSE ULTIMA 250 | Fully Automatic Stretch & Cling Film Slitter Rewinder Redpfx Aoy N Un Iem Tscd The ULTIMA 250 is a fully automatic, high-performance slitting and rewinding machine engineered for extreme ease of use, maximum versatility, and continuous industrial production. Built with high-end electronic and mechanical components, it ensures precise tension control and reliable long-term operation. Key Applications & Versatility: Multi-Product Output: Seamlessly produces stretch film hand rolls, machine rolls, and jumbo rolls, as well as PVC/PE cling film rolls. Flexible Core Diameters: Easily adjustable to produce rolls with various core diameters to meet rapidly evolving market demands. Advanced Slitting Capability: Equipped with a precise longitudinal cutting platform. Technical Features & Dimensions: Slitting Configuration Options: From 50 mm x 10 rolls up to 250 mm x 2 rolls. User-Friendly Interface: Operated via an embedded main control panel for flexible, intuitive, and safe management. Low Maintenance & High Ergonomics: Designed so that all manual operations and routine maintenance can be easily performed, even by inexperienced operators. For detailed technical specifications, quotation, and video demonstrations, please send us an inquiry directly through Machineseeker.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 68086, Machine can make rolls with paper core. And Coreless rolls (Without cardboard tubes) Semi-Automatic Coreless Prestretch Rewinding Machine Specification • Maximum parent roll diameter 500mm • Maximum web width 600mm. Master roll core 76mm diameter. 4 roller stretcher train geared to give a stretch of 335% • Servo driven rewind to vary collection tension from 240% to 335%. Adjustable external electronic rewind Variable speed drive up to 450 meters per minute. Rcedpfsxpq T Rsx Am Tjd • Single position coreless rewind station for either 50, 60 or 76mm ID rolls. (with change parts) • Programmable electronic roll length counter. Maximum rewind roll diameter 250mm. Slitting blades for multiple finished roll winding (with change parts) Rolls can be produced with or without oscillation and edge guiding Film break sensor. 3 - phase 400 volt supply. / Air requirements - 4 cfm max. at 80 psi. Guarding to suit current C.E. requirements

Condition: used, Second-hand machine Rcjdjzlbt Hepfx Am Ted Features and technical specifications: - Film material: LLDPE - Film width 500 m - Max. roller diameter 250 mm - max. film thickness 35 µm - Roller core diameter 76 mm - Max. pallet length 1,675 mm - Max. pallet width 1,675 mm - Max. pallet height 2,200 mm - Max. pallet weight 1,500 kg - with access ramp - Dimensions approx. 3000 x 2000 x 3200 mm - Weight approx. 750 kg Availability: at short notice Storage location: 63934 Röllbach

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 17460, total width: 1,200 mm, total length: 2,400 mm, film width: 1,300 mm, Barberán TF-1300 – slitting and rewinding machine for film, year 2009 For sale: a professional machine from the Spanish brand Barberán S.A., model TF-1300, year 2009, in very good technical condition. The machine is designed for slitting and rewinding materials in rolls into narrower strips: PVC film, Finish film, paper, melamine, and laminates. It is suitable for companies involved in veneering, laminating, and packaging production. Technical specifications: Year of manufacture: 2009 Maximum width of the input roll: 1300 mm (with a slight adjustment, a roll up to 1400 mm can be loaded) Maximum thickness of the film to be cut: 0.5 mm Operating speed: up to 75 m/min Rcjdpfxezqbn Io Am Tod Cutting mechanism: rotary knives with counter-blades, pneumatic pressure Number of knives: 9 rotary knives + 4 additional blade knives Smooth speed adjustment using a frequency inverter Power supply: 400 V / 50 Hz Machine weight: approx. 1300–1400 kg After cutting, the material is automatically rewound onto independent winding shafts – fast and precise operation while maintaining consistent cutting quality along the entire length of the roll. The machine is ready for operation.

Condition: excellent (used), I am offering a SANPACK FIX pallet wrapping machine designed for securing loads with stretch film during storage and transport. Technical specifications: Manufacturer: Sanpack Model: SANPACK FIX Power supply: 3×380V + N + PE Frequency: 50 Hz Power: 0.55 kW Rated current: 2.0 A Protection rating: IP54 Advantages: Rotating pallet table Stretch film holder Robust industrial construction Control panel operation Ideal for warehouses, production facilities, and logistics centers Redjzf Rkuepfx Am Tocd Visual condition matches the photos. The machine is used.

Year of construction: 2019, condition: like new (used), Automatic intermittent-motion machine designed in accordance with cGMP standards for wrapping with stretch film. Conceived primarily for the cosmetics and pharmaceutical markets, simplicity of design and high-speed output are its main features. Rcsdpfxsyb Tvte Am Tod Main features: Servo driven motor guarantees reliability and synchronized movement even at high speed Machine and motors managed by PC Balcony style structure with clear division between mechanical parts situated at the rear of the machine and product flow at the front Ergonomic structure facilitates machine inspection and provides high workflow visibility Simple and linear construction for easy cleaning Speed, strokes and single group positions are set up from the PC by programmable logics, making correct machine set-up automatic and size changeover extremely quick and easy

Condition: like new (used), designed for packaging food products on trays, fruit, veg, meat, fish, cheese, poultry to retain freshness and presentation, min pack dimensions 90mm L x 110mm W x 10mm H, max dimensions 200mm L x 300mm W x 160mm H, width of film 280mm - 550mm2004 Redpfjd Dcyrjx Am Tecd

Year of construction: 2012, condition: as good as new (ex-display), functionality: fully functional, We now offer a Linea Pack Avvolgipack 40 CA, a high-quality machine for horizontal wrapping of products. This particular unit is from 2012 but has only been used as a demonstration model. As such, it is in absolutely mint condition and has never been operational in production. Elongated products: It is ideal for items such as pipes, mouldings, metal profiles, boards, or rolls. Bundling: When several smaller units need to be combined into a package, for example multiple pipes, carpets, or timber. Protection against external influences: Just like conventional pallet wrapping, it provides effective protection against moisture, dirt, and transport damage. The machine is available for immediate delivery. Shipping costs are additional. Model: Avvolgipack 40 CA Year of manufacture: 2012 Machine height: 1,390 mm Machine width: 924 mm Machine depth: 2,674 mm Capacity: 3-25 m/min (throughput) Power supply: 220V, 0.37 kW Max product height: 190-250 mm (depending on product width) Machine weight: approx. 400 kg Rjdpfxsy N Uqve Am Tocd

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: EEE82, input voltage: 380 V, We are selling our fully operational high-speed Foodtainer packaging machine. The machine was exclusively used between April and June for sealing Foodtainers filled with asparagus. It has never let us down and has always been maintained whenever necessary. The complete user manual is available. Our technician will be happy to provide instruction on the machine. The machine can be inspected at short notice. Rodpfx Amjw Rnuij Tjcd

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, A fully automatic stretch wrapping machine / stretch film line from the highly reputed manufacturer TOSA is now available. The machine is supplied complete with roller conveyors and is specially equipped for handling extra-large pallets. The system features a U-shaped layout with recessed tracks at floor level, allowing easy loading and unloading using a hand pallet truck or pedestrian stacker. Subsequently, the pallet is lifted and seamlessly integrated into the remaining conveyor structure of the line. Rsdpeyb R R Uofx Am Tocd This solution is particularly well suited for warehousing and logistics operations with high demands on flexibility and operational reliability. The rotating arm, combined with several selectable wrapping programs, ensures stable and consistent wrapping of heavy, lightweight, and unstable pallet loads alike. Freight and optional installation are additional. The machine has been dismantled and is ready for immediate delivery. Specification: Manufacturer: TOSA Year of manufacture: 2013 Total system length: Approx. 13,500 mm Total system width: Approx. 6,500 mm Height: 6,500 mm Minimum pallet size: 750 x 1200 mm Maximum pallet size: 1000 x 1350 mm Maximum wrapping height: 2,600 mm Maximum pallet weight: 2,000 kg Capacity: Up to 60 pallets/h Power: 4.5 kW Voltage: 380 V + N / 50 Hz Air consumption: 16.5 Nl/min

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, Wrapping machines are designed for machine wrapping with stretch film of goods stored on pallets. They are especially recommended where it is required to obtain very high efficiency and low labor and financial expenditures in the process of packaging, so in distribution centers, wholesalers, production plants, as well as in smaller companies. The new model - has a touchscreen control panel, menus in languages: Polish, German, English, French Technical parameters: MASH: - Height :2.4m TABLE Table diameter - 1650 mm Max dimension of pallet - 1200x1200 mm Max weight of the pallet - 2000 kg Type of table: flat Adjustable disc speed: 3-12 R.P.M. Capacity: up to 30 pallets /1h. Automatic return to the starting position Powerful chain drive Soft start and end function POWER 230 V 50 Hz HEAD TYPE (depending on the model) - Pre stretch - Mechanical film stretch up to 350% (optional) Rcedpetpvbmofx Am Tsd - Film stretch: from 1m to 4m - Components from reputable companies including PANASONIC photocell ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS - Very easy operation - Working hours counter - Pallet counter - Cycle pause function - Stretching on the head modes and not on the pallet - Adjustable wrapping speeds

Year of construction: 2026, condition: new, Wrapping machines are designed for machine wrapping with stretch film of goods stored on pallets. They are especially recommended where it is required to obtain very high efficiency and low labor and financial expenditures in the process of packaging, so in distribution centers, wholesalers, production plants, as well as in smaller companies. Technical parameters: MASZT - Standard mast allows you to wrap a pallet up to 2400 mm high - depending on the model - Automatic return to the starting position - Top plate for additional stabilization of the pallet TABLE - Table diameter - 1650 mm - Max pallet dimension - 1200x1200 mm - Max weight of pallet - 2000 kg - Type of table: flat - Adjustable disc speed: 3-12 R.P.M. - Capacity: up to 30 pallets /1h. - Automatic return to the starting position - Powerful chain drive - Soft start and end function POWER 230 V 50 Hz Rjdpfetpvbbjx Am Tjcd HEAD TYPE (depending on the model) - Pre stretch - Mechanical film stretch up to 350% (optional) - Film stretch: from 1m to 4m - Components from reputable companies including: PANASONIC, SIEMENS ADDITIONAL FEATURES - Very easy operation - Hour counter - Pallet counter - Cycle pause function - Stretching on head modes and not on pallet - Adjustable wrapping speeds

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, - soft start / stop - pre-stretch tension - additional engine - height 2.4 m - ramp / platform - platform diameter 1.65 m - film stretch up to 350% - Strong chain drive - man-hour and pallet counter - regulation of wrapping speed 3-12 rpm - the ability to adapt the device according to the customer's needs - 230V power supply - Automatic return to the starting position ADDITIONAL FEATURES: - Very easy to use - Operating hours counter - Pallet counter - Cycle pause function - Stretching on the head modes and not on the palette - Adjustable wrapping speeds Pallet wrappers are designed for machine wrapping of goods stored on pallets with stretch foil. They are especially recommended where very high efficiency and low labor and financial costs in the packaging process are required, i.e. in distribution centers, warehouses, logistics centers, production plants, as well as in smaller companies. Rjdpjr Hbflofx Am Tecd – increasing the efficiency of the packaging process – the ability to set the required parameters by machine and the high rotational speed of the wrapping plate makes machine wrapping much shorter than manual wrapping, and the employee during foiling can be involved in other activities, e.g. preparing or delivering another pallet, – repeatability of packaging – wrapping with a wrapper allows you to maintain an identical method of packaging for a specific type of cargo, repeatability of a once developed and appropriate method of packaging allows for safe storage and transport of goods, – load stability – the wrapper, thanks to the adjustment, allows you to adjust the wrapping method even to very diverse loads in a reliable way and guarantees the stability of the load on the pallet, which guarantees avoiding possible damage to the load.

Year of construction: 2026, condition: new, - soft start / stop - pre-stretch tension - additional engine - height 2.1 m - ramp / platform Redpfx Ajmuzutem Tscd - platform diameter 1.65 m - film stretch up to 350% - Strong chain drive - man-hour and pallet counter - regulation of wrapping speed 3-12 rpm - the ability to adapt the device according to the customer's needs - 230V power supply - Automatic return to the starting position ADDITIONAL FEATURES: - Very easy to use - Operating hours counter - Pallet counter - Cycle pause function - Stretching on the head modes and not on the palette - Adjustable wrapping speeds Pallet wrappers are designed for machine wrapping of goods stored on pallets with stretch foil. They are especially recommended where very high efficiency and low labor and financial costs in the packaging process are required, i.e. in distribution centers, warehouses, logistics centers, production plants, as well as in smaller companies. – increasing the efficiency of the packaging process – the ability to set the required parameters by machine and the high rotational speed of the wrapping plate makes machine wrapping much shorter than manual wrapping, and the employee during foiling can be involved in other activities, e.g. preparing or delivering another pallet, – repeatability of packaging – wrapping with a wrapper allows you to maintain an identical method of packaging for a specific type of cargo, repeatability of a once developed and appropriate method of packaging allows for safe storage and transport of goods, – load stability – the wrapper, thanks to the adjustment, allows you to adjust the wrapping method even to very diverse loads in a reliable way and guarantees the stability of the load on the pallet, which guarantees avoiding possible damage to the load.

Year of construction: 1988, condition: good (used), In good condition. Rsdpfx Ajzdz Tkom Tecd

Year of construction: 2015, condition: excellent (used), The Cyklop CST 940 is a fully automatic stretch wrapping machine that ensures fast and reliable pallet wrapping at high volumes. Beneath the casing is an Atlanta Stretch Mytho A – a model renowned for its robust construction and dependable operation. With a capacity of up to 45 pallets per hour, it is an excellent choice for logistics centers, warehouses, and production facilities seeking to combine efficiency with operational reliability. Thanks to its minimal use and pristine condition, the machine gives the impression of being brand new, but comes at the price of a pre-owned unit. Operation is simple via a user-friendly 5.7” touchscreen featuring multiple program selections, and the machine can be customized for different load formats and wrapping requirements. With adjustable speeds for both the rotary arm and film carriage, as well as various pre-stretch levels, a flexible solution is created, delivering high performance and secure, stable packaging. The solution can be adapted and extended upon request, as additional conveyor sections of the same model can be offered. Rodpow U Rd Uefx Am Tjcd Compressed air required. Freight and installation, if applicable, are not included.

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: not functional, Automatic stretch wrap machine for loads placed on pallets. Machine requires repair! Missing one stretch film carriage, ASI communication not functioning, and control cabinet incomplete. Rodpexfbfvofx Am Tocd Original machine documentation and electrical schematics included. Manufacturer: M.J. MAILLIS GROUP (SIAT) Model: MANCON 1710 Year of manufacture: 2005

Year of construction: 1999, condition: defective spare-parts repository (used), functionality: limited functionality, machine/vehicle number: 2200268., We sell an automatic packaging machine (stretch film packaging machine, tray packaging machine ), ULMA model COMPACT, MFG 1999, SN: 2200268. Packaging for trays with stretch film including Bizerba scale type: 18-A (max 3/6 kg, min 20 gr) and Bizerba labeller GH both with serial number: 1713392 Rodpfxouiq Dbo Am Tocd Ulma data: electrical power 1.2kw, 400V voltage, frequency 50/60 Hz and consumption of 5A. Technical characteristics: Reduced space required. Fully automatic operation. Semi-automatic coil change. Packaging with PVC, Polyethylene and Polyolefin films. Anticorrosive construction. High wrapping quality with minimum film consumption. Wrapping of products without tray. Approved according to E.C. regulations. packaging machinery. It is the ideal choice for the different food sections of small and medium-sized points of sale where, integrated with manual weighing and labelling systems, a significant speed and production rate are required, while maintaining small dimensions and ease of use. IMPORTANT: The machine is sold in a non-functional state, with no knowledge of the eventual error. The buyer should repair it or use it as a spare parts donor. Price Euro 1,900 Euro + VAT, FCA: Oradea / Romania Irrtum, Anderungen und Zwischenverkauf vorbehalten / Subject to errors, changes and prior sale / Ne rezervăm dreptul la greșeli, modificări și vânzare We speak English. /Wir sprechen Deutsch./ Beszélünk magyarul. /Nous parlons français/Vorbim romana

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2022, Baling press for waste paper, paper, film, plastic, and other recyclable organic materials. Manufacturer: HSM Model: V-Press 825 plus pro - TCS system (TorsionControlSystem) – platen parallelism control - Automatic start/stop when doors are closed - Display + bale and operating hours counter - Manual tie-off (4 polyester straps) - Sliding door with handwheel locking mechanism Machine dimensions: 1700 x 1250 mm, height: 2370 mm Loading aperture: 1195 x 540 mm Bale weight: up to approx. 280 kg Bale dimensions: approx. 1200 × 780 × 700 mm Throughput: approx. 2–5 bales/h Rcsdpfjyyy Dpsx Am Ted Year of manufacture: 2022 Pressing force: 250 kN Motor power: 4.0 kW Machine weight: 1200 kg

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 1,809 h, total width: 2,000 mm, total height: 1,800 mm, overall weight: 1,650 kg, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: S7 with SIMATIC HMI Touch Panel, product length (max.): 2,400 mm, Circular Metal Saw manufactured in 2023. This PRESSTA EISELE PROFILMA 502 features a powerful 7.5 kW saw drive with a maximum saw blade speed of 2,850 rpm. It offers a cutting capacity of 270 x 150 mm and a maximum profile width of 270 mm. The machine includes a Siemens S7 control system with a touch panel for enhanced operation. If you are looking to get high-quality cutting capabilities, consider the PRESSTA EISELE PROFILMA 502 machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. Technical Specifications • Saw Drive Power: 7.5 kW (7,500 W) • Duty Cycle: S6 • Saw Blade Speed: Max. 2,850 rpm • Power Supply: 400 V, 3-phase, 50 Hz • Current Consumption: 16 A • Operating Pressure: 6–8 bar Cutting Capacity • Maximum Cutting Width: 270 mm • Maximum Cutting Height: 150 mm • Maximum Cutting Diameter: 270 mm • Maximum Round Material Capacity (90°): 190 mm • Maximum Profile Width: 270 mm • Section Length Range: 3–4,000 mm • Minimum Remnant Length: From 75 mm (depending on profile) Saw Blade • Saw Blade Diameter: Ø550 mm • Saw Blade Bore: Ø40 mm Control System • PLC: Siemens S7 • HMI: SIMATIC Touch Panel • Controller: CPU 315 • Safety System: Flexisoft • Functions: • Piece counter • Batch multiplier for bundle processing • Cycle time display • Chain dimension management • Fault diagnostics Connectivity • Remote Access: IXON router with VPN connection Material Feed System • Drive Type: Electronic servo drive • Feed Stroke: 800 mm • Drive Mechanism: Ball screw spindle • Maximum Profile Length: 4,000 mm • Feed Support: Lift/lower roller support Saw Feed • Feed Type: Motorized • Feed Adjustment: Stepless • Cutting Direction: Bottom to top Clamping System • Type: Pneumatic horizontal and vertical clamping • Clamping Position: Feed and discharge sides • Pressure Control: 6 individual pressure regulators Lubrication • Lubrication Type: Intermittent spray system • Reservoir Capacity: 1 L • Features: • Level monitoring • Automatic shut-off Safety Features • Complete safety enclosure • Sound-insulated machine frame • Automatic machine shut-off at end of material stock • Cutting gap extension to protect cut surfaces Material Support • Infeed Conveyor: 740 mm roller conveyor with intrusion guard • Outfeed Table: 450 mm Pertinax support table with intrusion guard Rodezi S R Ropfx Am Tscd Extraction • Extraction Ports: 2 × Ø100 mm Chip Extraction Unit • Model: MG 3 (Italyvacuum Vortex 58 FT) • Year of Manufacture: 2022 • Motor Power: 3 kW • Voltage: 400 V / 3~ (±5%) • Current Consumption: 7.2 A • Weight: 130 kg • Features: • Integrated cyclonic separation system • Contactless antistatic system Additional Information • Machine can be inspected under power.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2017, fully automatic operation Drive: 7.5 kW, S6, 400 V, 50 Hz, 2850 rpm For use with saw blades D 550 mm Cutting range: 270x140 mm (width x height), D 185 mm Max. profile width: 270 mm Control panel with display Includes piece counter Includes reversing mechanism for a maximum section length of 3000 mm Automatic shutdown via limit switch when the material runs out Hydropneumatic saw blade feed, infinitely adjustable, from bottom to top Vertical and horizontal clamping device, on the feed and discharge side of the saw head Pneumatic dosing spray device Cutting gap widening on both sides of the saw blade Electronic material feed unit, 3-600 mm feed length, with ball screw and servomotor, includes pneumatic horizontal and vertical clamping device, Remaining piece from 75 mm, depending on the profile 2 dust extraction nozzles D 100 mm Rcsdpfszn H Uhex Am Ted Safety guard over the saw head and the feed unit A suitable dust extraction system can be offered as an option!