Used Mauser Coordinate Measuring Machine for sale (68,150)

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1393, arm reach: 2,500 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Includes notebook and PCdemis 2016 software! TECHNICAL DETAILS FP2 Mobility Pack: included Measuring software: PCdemis (2016) Notebook: DELL M 6800 with a 17-inch screen and Windows 10 Tripod: Brunson heavy-duty rolling tripod, type 230 FIX Measuring range: 2,500 mm Accuracy class: 5 Number of axes: 6 Target single-point deviation: 0.020 mm Target volumetric accuracy: ±0.029 mm Arm weight: 8 kg Probe set: Probe with ruby ball 3mm, 6mm and with steel ball 15mm EQUIPMENT - Carbon fiber double-tube construction enables separation of stability and measurement - AbsoluteArm series can start measuring directly without referencing - Probing system with automatic probe recognition - Mounting plate with magnet - FP2 Mobility Pack - Transport case - Magnetic tripod - Test bar L = 700 mm - Test sphere D = 25 mm - Power supply with connecting cable - USB cable measuring arm - notebook - Dust cover - New pressure cylinder installed - Relabeling of the measuring arm before calibration 2023 - ISO 10360 acceptance with certificate 2023 is included Shipping conditions - Ex works, without additional packaging (measuring arm in case and notebook in protective cover) and Brunson rolling tripod – i.e. 3 parts - If the buyer arranges collection via a shipping company, the seller recommends special packaging (approx. 160 x 70 x 70 cm cardboard box on a pallet, with bubble wrap inside) and a Euro pallet (Brunson rolling tripod) at a price of €250, secured with strapping to the pallet. Guedpszrd R Uofx An Ieg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2017, Machine is in good working conditions. Parts shown by hand not come. Guodpfxjzlalhs An Ieg Technical data are on pictures.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, measuring range X-axis: 300 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 300 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 150 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 25 kg, total height: 700 mm, total width: 570 mm, total length: 500 mm, overall weight: 25 kg, table width: 305 mm, table length: 305 mm, table load: 25 kg, ambient temperature (max.): 50 °C, ambient temperature (min.): 5 °C, maximum load weight: 25 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, type plate available, Renishaw Equator 300 Versatile Gauge Machine Type: Co-Ordinate Measuring Machine/Versatile Gauge Year: 2020 Condition: Excellent Condition Includes Equator Shopfloor Controller Kit Equator SM25-2U Probe Kit Equator Joystick Kit Equator Power Cable UK Modus Equator Equator Enclosure Kit Equator Gauge Checker Kit M6 EQ33 Modular Fixture Plate x 2 SH25-2A Stylus Holder x 3 Styli x 2 IPC Dongle with one Licence Technical Specification Working Volume X & Y: Ø300 mm Working Volume Z: 150mm Working Volume Height from Base: 55mm Machine Weight: 25kg Dimensions(without enclosure): 570 x 500 x 700mm Comparison uncertainty*: ±0.002 mm Probe type - scanning: Renishaw 3-axis SP25 analogue scanning Maximum scanning speed: (SP25) 200 mm/s Guodpexyungsfx An Iog Scanning rate (SP25): 1000 points/s Probe type - touch-trigger: Renishaw 3-axis TP20 kinematic touch-trigger Recommended touch speed (TP20): 10 mm/s Maximum movement speed: 500 mm/s Scale resolution: 0.0002 mm Fixturing requirement*: ±1 mm Machine air supply requirement: No air required Operating temperature: +5 °C to +50 °C Storage temperature: -25 °C to +70 °C Relative humidity operating range: Maximum 80 %RH at 40 °C, non condensing Machine electrical supply requirements: 100-240 V AC ±10 %, 50-60 Hz Maximum power consumption: 190 W Typical power consumption: 80-100 W Fixture plate: 305 mm × 305 mm aluminium Maximum workpiece weight: 25 kg Notes * The process of measuring on an Equator involves defining a series of gauge points on the component surface. Periodic calibration of a master part on a CMM establishes datum values for each gauge point. The same gauge points on the same master part are measured on Equator, ‘mastering’, to establish a correlation with the certified CMM. Subsequently, a regular ‘re-mastering’ process is used to account for changing environmental conditions. Size and position measurements made immediately following re-mastering will have a comparison uncertainty of ±0.002 mm relative to the certified measurements of the masterpart. This specification applies where each part is fixtured to within 1 mm relative to the master part. Peak consumption at power up. 3-axis system typical consumption based on taking touch points under DCC control. Notes: *Specifications are given in good faith but not guaranteed*

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, repeat accuracy: 0.001 mm, feed length X-axis: 1,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 1,000 mm, feed length Z-axis: 800 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, Measurement sensor: TP200 Software: Camio Godpfx Anezwvlzo Isug Volumetric accuracy: 2.5+L/225 µm The LK Metrology G90C is a high-precision coordinate measuring machine (CMM) ideal for industries requiring exceptional accuracy. It features a ceramic structure, air bearings, and an advanced drive system, ensuring stability and speed. The device has been thoroughly tested and inspected by our technicians and is currently available in our showroom. For more information: nenad.mitrakovic(at)teximp.com

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, measuring range X-axis: 5,500 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 1,600 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 2,100 mm, total height: 3,650 mm, total width: 5,900 mm, total length: 6,220 mm, table width: 3,450 mm, table length: 6,020 mm, Our company offer for sale CMM Wenzel RS Plus 16/21, machine was used as a DEMO device for technicians training, and some measurements for our customers. The machine is equipped with a linear guide and tape measuring system, Renishaw for eventual assembly of the second column. Our company is able provide all necessary steps for moving and commissioning, calibration and an accredited test of accuracy. Measuring plate dimension: 6020x3450mm Guedpfjwcytiox An Isg Probing system: probing head RENISHAW PH10M measuring probe RENISHAW TP20 CMM controller: Metrologic ME5008 or can be customised according to your needs CMM keyboard: Metrologic ME471 wired or can be customised according to your needs

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 0007306, measuring range X-axis: 700 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 1,000 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 600 mm, CRYSTA PLUS M 7106 Manual Coordinate Measuring Machine 1. 1 piece 8,500.00 8,500.00 Measuring range: X=700 Y=1000 Z=600 Length deviation of measurement: E=(4.5+0.45L/100) * High accuracy * Unlimited micro-feed capability for traversing (point acquisition) * Self-adjusting air bearings Gujdpfozkakbjx An Ijg * Quiet operation with minimum air consumption * Granite measuring table * Precision glass scales * Software for MS-Windows NT/2000/XP/WIN 7 * Upgrade from MCOSMOS Manual V2 to V4 * Computer - personal computer * LED monitor DELL 24" * Ceramic calibration sphere for SMS - diameter 20mm

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, Mitutoyo measuring bench in excellent condition, located in a climate-controlled room at 20°C. Calibrated by Mitutoyo on na regular basis. Availability: 10/2026 SP25M motorized measuring head with PH10MQ probe Tactile and scanning measurement Gusdpfjzd R D Esx An Ieg Scanning precision within 2.3µ Measurement precision within 1.7µ +0.4µ per 100mm Max. workpiece weight 1,200kg Granite table dimensions LxW Maximum height under bridge 800mm Software Mcosmos 3 and MiCAT

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, functionality: fully functional, 3D Coordinate Measuring Machine | Brand: MAUSER/ZEISS | Type: KMZ-G 602520 | Year of manufacture: 1988/2003 Optionally available with an air-conditioned hall. The machine has been calibrated regularly by ZEISS. The last calibration was performed on August 7, 2025, the next calibration (recommended) is scheduled for August 2026. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:: Measuring ranges (Length x Width x Height): 6.000 x 2.500 x 2.000 mm Guodpfx Aoy Iub Sen Isg Travels: - X-axis: 6.000 mm - Y-axis: 2.500 mm - Z-axis: 2.000 mm - Length measurement uncertainty according to VDI/VDE 2617: U3 = (5,0 + L/250)µm, V2 = 3,5 µm - Length measurement uncertainty according to ISO 10360-2: MPE_E = (5,0 + L/250)µm - Environmental conditions for maintaining the specified accuracy: * Temperature range: 21°C +/- 3°K * Temperature fluctuation: 0,5°K/h, 1,0°K/d, 0,5°K/m - Environmental conditions for operation: * Temperature range: + 15°C up to 35°C * Humidity: 30 up to 70% General features, Equipment: - Portal measuring machine with ultra-precision guides and ball-screw drives - Second Y-axis with granite guideway and air bearing - High-resolution Zeiss scales - Positive-drive mechanisms in all three axes - Collision protection for the quill and probe head (for VAST-TK) for manual and setup modes - Safety position for crane interlock - Reference temperature compensation - Microcomputer control - Practice piece: cube, star-shaped stylus - Reference probe D = 8 mm, length: 115 mm - Reference standard D = 30 mm - includes basic software package - Load-bearing capacity: Limited only by the foundation design - Measuring system: VAST - Software: Zeiss CALYPSO - Documentation Without guarantee of completeness and correctness of the technical information and the equipment. - Subject to prior sale -

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, Werth multisensor coordinate measuring machine Werth multisensor coordinate measuring machine Godpjt H I Akefx An Ieug Type: Scope Check 200x200x200/Z/S 3D CNC Year: 2012 Weight: approx. 260kg Measuring range: X=200 Y=200 Z=200mm Machine dimensions: W=750 D=740 H=1700mm Drive: Ball screw with servo motors Measuring mode: optical Measuring program: WinWerth (Windows 7 computer) Accessories Operating instructions documents 2 screens PC keyboard Joystick

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, total width: 1,700 mm, total length: 1,765 mm, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, compressed air connection: 4 bar, Wenzel Smart Gear - gear and 3D coordinate measuring machine The machine is in very good condition and fully functional. It has been regularly serviced and well looked after. Machine data: • Machine dimensions L=1765mm W=1700mm H=2232mm • Max. rotary table workpiece diameter = 5 to 270mm • Measuring accuracy gear testing in accordance with VDI/VDE2612/2613 Group II Gujdpfjvvudkox An Ijg • Max. rotary table load = 20 daN • Travel paths X= 500mm Y=450mm Z=400mm • Scanning probe - Renishaw SP600M • 7x SP600 change plate for probe included • Module measuring range 0.4 - 10mm • Active air damping of the machine • Year of manufacture 2008 • Accessories such as driver, reference ball etc. as shown • Jaw chuck D=80mm with inside and outside jaws • 24 inch monitor, mouse, keyboard The following software modules are included: Gear cutting software: • TMain - program management • TStylus – Probe management • TCali – Probe calibration • TAmo – Calculated axis position determination • TGear – Spur gear measuring program • TGear – Head and root circle option • TWorm – Worm measuring program 3D software • Metrosoft CM 3.8

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 08120055, measuring range X-axis: 440 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 500 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 410 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 227 kg, total height: 2,320 mm, type of input current: AC, total width: 1,160 mm, total length: 1,030 mm, travel distance X-axis: 440 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 410 mm, overall weight: 293 kg, input voltage: 220 V, table height: 930 mm, travel speed (max.): 21,000 mm/min, repeat accuracy: 0.003 mm, table load: 227 kg, compressed air connection: 4 bar, year of last overhaul: 2025, Equipment: documentation/manual, type plate available, TESA MH3D DCC coordinate measuring machine (CMM) for sale in very good, well-maintained condition and ready for immediate use. Features: PC-DEMIS Pro for Windows Version 4.2 MR4 Release software (legally transferable) Current calibration and maintenance performed on 09/09/2025 Renishaw MH20i / TP-ES probing system Includes several probe extensions and accessories Including EM1 extension exchange module, L=70 mm (new price 07/2025: €1,255 net) 1x TP20 SF probe module (standard probing force) 1x TP20 EF probe module (high probing force for long probe combinations) Functional HP computer included Calibration and measurement records available Operating manual on CD Additional, functional Renishaw Brown & Sharpe TP-ES probe head Original TESA Star-i probe head (defective) Additional Renishaw MIP probe head (probably defective) Various styli included (see pictures) Condition: Granite table in very good condition Gusdpey Taixofx An Ijg Axes run smoothly and precisely No problems with the air bearings Machine has been regularly serviced Used only in a metrology laboratory Immediately ready for production and measurement Typical wear marks present on one side of the guide rail; purely cosmetic and without any technical restrictions Air bearings run smoothly, without jolts, and precisely Calibration is current and within specification Inspection and functional demonstration possible by arrangement. Suitable for quality assurance, incoming goods inspection, manufacturing metrology, toolmaking, CNC machining, or metrology service providers.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Sales Description – Keyence XM-T1200 including accessories For sale is a high-quality Keyence XM-T1200 3D coordinate measuring machine including extensive accessories. The system is ideal for precise dimensional measurements, quality control, and flexible measuring tasks in manufacturing, toolmaking, and production. The XM series from Keyence impresses with its ease of use, high measuring accuracy, and fast measurement results – even with complex components. Thanks to the optical measurement support and intuitive software, measurements can be performed efficiently and reproducibly. Equipment / Scope of supply Keyence XM-T1200 Control and operating unit Original accessory package Probes / measuring sensors (depending on the configuration) Calibration accessories Software / documentation (if available) Further accessories by arrangement Technical highlights Precise 3D measurements Simple and user-friendly operation Flexible positioning of the measuring sensors Fast commissioning without complex fixtures Ideal for single parts, series production, and quality inspection Condition The machine is in well-maintained and fully functional condition. Maintenance and operation were carried out carefully. An inspection or demonstration is possible by arrangement. Sale Location: Hanns-Martin Schleyer Str. 2 // 41199 MG Gsdpfxozdnxyj An Ioug Availability: by arrangement Price: Negotiable / on request If you are interested or have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. We will be happy to send you further photos, technical details, and information about the accessories.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, Measuring machine Zeiss CMM Pro T2 advance 16/21, year of manufacture 2014 – in very good condition • Standard numerical control panel • Base plate dimensions: Length: 4,000 mm Width: 2,000 mm Height: 640 mm Total system height approx. 4,500 mm • Measuring range: X-axis: 3,200 mm Y-axis: 1,600 mm Z-axis: 2,100 mm Guodpfx Asw D R Nqen Iog • Permissible workpiece weight: approx. 5,000 kg Software: Zeiss Caligo BASIS CNC, Zeiss Caligo QS-STAT • Length measurement deviation according to ISO 10360-2: MPE-E = (27 + L/80)μm

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, Manufacturer: Faro Type: Prime Year of manufacture: 2013 (Certification date: 23.10.2023) Version: 28.1 Type: Measuring arm 6 axes, 1.8 m Scope of delivery: Gujdpfozlg Ucex An Isg Arm, base plate, standard probe kit (3 mm, 6 mm), battery, cable, dust cover, transport case. Software: CAM2 Measure 10, full version Measurement software for FaroArm, ScanArm, and Faro Laser Tracker Further information, see images. Condition: Very good, used, fully functional.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2020, General Data Machine weight 2350 kg Measurements height 2700 mm Dimensions Machine Length 2100 mm Gedex D Hvqjpfx An Ijug Main Drive Number of axis 3 Movement X-Axis Movement 600 mm Z-Axis Movement 500 mm Y-Axis Movement 700 mm This 3-axis EROWA CMM Qi was manufactured in 2020. It features a travel range of 600mm on the X-axis, 700mm on the Y-axis, and 500mm on the Z-axis. The machine can handle a maximum workpiece weight of 650kg and includes advanced components like the PH10MQ touch probe system and FCR25-L6 touch probe changer. Ideal for precise measurements in quality control processes. Contact us for more information about this machine. Application Types Measuring

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1991, functionality: fully functional, Coordinate measuring machine DEA Gamma 1203 Year of manufacture: 1991 Measuring range: X = 1500 mm Y = 1000 mm Z = 660 mm Measuring software: PC DMIS 3.7 Renishaw rotary indexing head PH10M Gusdpfxjzlqf Ee An Iog Probing system: Renishaw TP20 Vibration-damped measuring table Accessories: 4 additional probing heads TP20 Extensions Various probes Calibration sphere Condition: The measuring machine is in good condition. It is serviced and calibrated every two years, and any pending repairs have been carried out by our service provider. The machine is still in use and is used for sample testing of our manufactured parts. It can be inspected during operation by prior arrangement. Delivery from our location.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2015, operating hours: 230 h, functionality: fully functional, measuring range X-axis: 300 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 200 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 150 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 20 kg, total height: 890 mm, total width: 986 mm, total length: 705 mm, overall weight: 170 kg, input voltage: 230 V, Equipment: documentation/manual, lighting, type plate available, SPECIAL OFFER with optional full service (delivery, commissioning) Technical data of the HEXAGON OPTIV CLASSIC 321 GL tp measuring machine Year of manufacture: 2015 Maximum traverse speed in X, Y, Z axes: 160 mm/s Gedpfx Aoxfzzqen Ioug Maximum workpiece weight: 20 kg Measuring resolution: 0.05 µm Measuring accuracy in X, Y axes (optical sensor): Ex, Ey = (1.6 + L/250) µm Measuring accuracy in XY axes (optical sensor): Exy = (2.0 + L/250) µm Measuring accuracy in Z axis (optical sensor): Exy = (3.9 + L/200) µm Measuring accuracy in X, Y axes (touch-trigger probe): Ex, Ey = (2.0 + L/250) µm Measuring accuracy in XY axes (touch-trigger probe): Exy = (2.5 + L/250) µm Measuring accuracy in Z axis (touch-trigger probe): Ez = (2.9 + L/200) µm Measuring volume (optical sensor): X 300 mm / Y 200 mm / Z 150 mm Measuring volume (tactile sensor): X 230 mm / Y 200 mm / Z 150 mm Dimensions (L x W x H): 705 x 986 x 890 mm Machine weight: 170 kg Equipment of the measuring machine: • 3-axis microprocessor CNC with vector path control • Metrology software: PC-DMIS Vision • Vision sensor for non-contact measurement of the smallest and most precise components • CCD camera with 6.5x motorized CNC zoom • DC servomotors • TESA probe system (1 body and 1 module) • Modular probe changer: TESASTAR with 4 slots and 4 modules • Linear guides on all axes • Coaxial LED top light (white LED) • LED backlight (green LED + diffuser) • Multi-segment LED ring light • Evaluation computer from Dell included Optional services: Delivery (surcharge) Commissioning (surcharge)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, measuring range X-axis: 900 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 1,500 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 700 mm, Equipment: type plate available, Zeiss CNC Coordinate Measuring Machine Prismo 9/15/7 MASS VAST GOLD - RDS+VAST XXT Year of manufacture: 2004 Retrofit 2024, last calibration 01/2025 Measuring range: X = 900 mm, Y = 1500 mm, Z = 700 mm In excellent technical and optical condition. Device features, equipment: Guedpfx Anszk Id Ao Ieg C99 control system with BP26_SE control panel Automatic temperature compensation VAST GOLD sensor system RDS sensor system with VAST XXT Probe changer magazine MSR 10-position VAST Gold Probe changer magazine 3-position VAST XXT Probe changer plate 8x VAST Gold Probe changer plate 3x VAST XXT Reference probe Temperature probe Probe accessories Calibration sphere HP Z4 workstation WIN11 with monitor Calypso Basic 2024 software Curve and QS-Stat options Calypso upgrade and other options possible Further accessories and options possible Available for short-term delivery.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, 3D coordinate measuring machine Control unit XM 1600 Measuring range on the table 200 x 200 x 200 mm Maximum measuring range 2000 x 1200 x 1000 mm Accuracy: +/- 7µm Repeatability: +/- 3µm Gedpfx Ajzb R I Hjn Isug

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, Equipment: documentation/manual, type plate available, We are offering this used Keyence VL-500 optical 3D coordinate measuring machine, manufactured in 2020. Manufacturer: Keyence Corporation Model: VL-500 Country of origin: Japan Year of manufacture: 2020 Serial number: CC910026 System consists of: Guedpfx Ansy Uw Dvj Ieg Control unit: VL-500 Base/object table: VL-530 Measuring head: VL-570 Calibration plate Manuals Dongle PC Last calibration performed by the manufacturer in 11/2024. If you have any questions or require further information, please feel free to send us a message or call us.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1992, Measuring range, X-axis: 2400 mm Measuring range, Y-axis: 1200 mm Measuring range, Z-axis: 1500 mm Machine weight: approx. 9.00 t Gedpfx Anjg Er Nls Ioug

Condition: defective spare-parts repository (used), Table size: 1300 x 950 mm Gsdpfxjicnk Es An Isug The device is not functional! Chassis for sale.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2004, measuring range X-axis: 900 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 2,000 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 600 mm, Mitutoyo CMM Crysta Apex C9206 Measuring ranges 900x2000x600mm Accuracy 1,7 + 3L/1000µm Gjdpfsf S Tmvex An Ioug Slightly damaged V-Axis covers (will be replaced or delivered without) Software MCOSMOS-1 V3.5, Windows 10 PC or selectable upgrade to: - Mitutoyo MCOSMOS 4.2 incl Geopak & MCAT1000S or new license - EasyCMM I++ Server plus Inca Professional Probe Renishaw PH10T with either: - Renishaw Touch probe TP200 - Renishaw Touch Probe TP20 Selectable options: - Scanning Probe Renishaw SP25 with PH10M - Probe Change Racks - New PH10M+ Head and Probe (upgrade) - MCOSMOS Offline license MCAT1000P - Bilz Pneumatic Vibration Damping System on demand Installation & Calibration (plus additional travel expenses) Including 3 Month Warranty (excl. travel expenses)

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2013, measuring range X-axis: 650 mm, measuring range Y-axis: 900 mm, measuring range Z-axis: 500 mm, repeat accuracy: 0.002 mm, year of last overhaul: 2026, Measuring Range X – axis 650 mm Y – axis 900 mm Z – axis 500 mm Accuracy acc. ISO 10360 E = [2,9 + 4L/1000]µm retrofiited 2026 (new drives, new probe, new electronic, new software and PC) incl.: Renishaw RTP20 (new) Renishaw MCR20 probe changer (+1 additional module) DEVA004 DCC controller Aberlink 3D software Godox N S D Hspfx An Isug On Demand: Aberlink CAD offline programming/ CAD compare Inca Premium (full 3D incl offline and CAD compare) DEVA joystick (USB or with touchscreen) Insatllation and training

Year of construction: 2012, condition: excellent (used), Coord3 Hera coordinate measuring machine in top condition Measuring Ranges X – axis 900 mm Y – axis 2000 mm Z – axis 800 mm Gusdpfxelmlhws An Ieg Accuracy acc. ISO 10360 E = [2,5 + 4L/1000]µm Pantec Eagle Pro Probe system Renishaw PH10MQ+SP25M Probe changer Renishaw FCR25 Inspect3D Inca V7 (latest Version) Computer Hewlett Packard (Windows 11 Pro) Dual Monitor On demand with old PC (W7) and old Arco CAD license (minus € 5.000,--)