Used Chain Plate for sale (14,572)

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2019, Steel plate and chain belt conveyor Manufacturer: FMW Förderanlagen GmbH Year of manufacture: approx. 2019 Total length: approx. 45,000 mm Width: approx. 2000 mm For sale is a steel plate and chain belt conveyor with a total length of approximately 45 meters and a width of approximately 2 meters. Please refer to the drawing for detailed specifications. The conveyor is currently assembled and can be inspected upon request. Disassembly is not included in the price. Dwsdjzzx Erepfx Aizod

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1998, Haffner Door Lock Mortising Machine used, in good condition Manufacturer: Haffner Model: SL 100 Machine No.: 5372 Column-type machine Chain mortising unit Door support Workpiece support Spindle for lever hole Spindle for faceplate Lubrication device Extraction port D 80/100 mm Required space approx. 1200 mm x 700 mm x 2000 mm Weight approx. 300 kg Location: 54634 Bitburg Dedpfoyuty Ssx Aizjwd Delivery in as-inspected condition, without warranty or guarantee

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Fezer panel lifter with electric chain hoist PS 5 with rails, 250 kg load capacity, ideal for loading panel saws. Transport available at extra cost! Due to the age of the used machine, warranty is excluded when selling to commercial customers. Dwjdpfx Aisw E Irfozsd

Condition: used, • Dimensions (mm): 80 x 60 Djdpfxebxp Eao Aizewd • Rubber plate • Mounting bracket

Condition: used, HANS Type: GSX 500-3.98 HANS column-slewing crane / column-swivel crane Load capacity: 500 kg / reach: 3,050 mm For sale: a HANS column-slewing crane with a LIFTKET electric chain hoist for industrial, workshop, production, assembly, and maintenance applications. The crane is suitable for operational lifting tasks and can be used to lift, position, and move workpieces, components, and machine parts. Technical data according to the nameplate Manufacturer: HANS-Hebetechnik + Metallbau GmbH Type / Designation: GSX 500-3.98 Year of manufacture: 2011 Design: Column-slewing crane Load capacity: 500 kg Reach: 3,050 mm Self-weight according to the crane nameplate: 360 kg Electric chain hoist LIFTKET Manufacturer: HOFFMANN Fördertechnik GmbH / LIFTKET Dedpfxo Aaxbzs Aizewd Type: 021/51 Year of manufacture: 2011 Load capacity: 250 / 500 kg Lifting speed: 8.0 / 2.0 or 4.0 / 1.0 m/min Chain dimensions: 4 × 12 mm Power connection: 380–415 V / 3 phases / 50 Hz Control type: Direct control Protection class: IP55 Equipment / Features HANS floor-mounted column with slewing arm LIFTKET electric chain hoist Electric trolley Load hook Hand control / control pendant Chain catch container Crane main switch on the column Floor mounting via base plate Industrial design Condition & Notes Condition: used Visual condition: see pictures Signs of wear and tear due to use Functional testing not documented Scope of supply HANS column-slewing crane GSX 500-3.98 LIFTKET electric chain hoist Hand control Scope of supply as per sales agreement and pictures Dimensions & Weight Reach: 3,050 mm Load capacity: 500 kg Self-weight according to the crane nameplate: 360 kg Overall height and transport dimensions: not determined Total weight including accessories: not determined The actual transport dimensions and total weight depend on the scope of supply and the dismantling condition. Shipping or freight transport is possible by arrangement. Dismantling and loading must be coordinated in advance. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale. We will be happy to answer any further questions by telephone.

Condition: used, VETTER Crane Technology PROFI Crane System / Two-Rail Portal Crane VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Two-rail portal crane with crane bridge, manual travel unit, and electric chain hoist. For sale is a used VETTER PROFI crane system from the manufacturer Vetter Krantechnik GmbH. The system is suitable for assembly work, production, mechanical engineering, maintenance, logistics, as well as the safe lifting and positioning of heavy loads. Technical data Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: P300 Design: PROFI crane system as a two-rail portal with crane bridge Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Span of crane bridge: 5,100 mm Support distance L: 5,590 mm Support distance B: 5,100 mm Beam length: 6,170 mm Overall dimensions of the system: approx. 6,040 x 5,800 mm Bottom edge of crane bridge: 4,145 mm Bottom edge of portal beam: 4,567 mm Overall height: 4,905 mm Classification according to EN 15011: HC2 / S2 Steel structure group: 18/36/30 Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Control voltage: 24 V Max. permissible hoist weight: 85 kg Electric chain hoist Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SIXX8AF Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Lifting speed: 4.0 / 1.0 m/min Lifting motor power: 1.50 / 0.37 kW FEM class: 2m / M5 Protection class: IP55 Duty cycle: 40 % Weight at 5 m lift: 65 kg Travel unit / trolley Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SiCO-HF 2000 A Variant A Load capacity: 2,000 kg Beam width: 66 - 220 mm Weight: 17 kg Equipment Two-rail portal crane system Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF Manual travel unit SiCO-HF 2000 A Load hook Floor control Main switch Steel support and beam construction Inspection book available EC declaration of conformity available Documentation available Accessories according to pictures Application areas Mechanical engineering Assembly work Production Maintenance Workshop operation Material handling Logistics Longest component: approx. 6.2 m Heaviest single component: approx. 300 kg Total weight of the system is approximately between 2,000 and 3,500 kg, depending on the installed steel profiles and foundation plates. Condition Used Optical condition according to pictures System was installed and in operation Inspection book and documentation available Scope of delivery VETTER P300 PROFI crane system Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF 1.6 t Dodpfx Aioz Sn Ddozjwd Manual travel unit SiCO-HF 2000 A Support and beam construction Floor control / operating elements Main switch Inspection book EC declaration of conformity Documentation Accessories according to pictures The machines, tools and other items visible in the pictures, which are not explicitly described, are not included in the scope of delivery. Shipping or freight shipping possible. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1998, Chain motor 2,2 kw Lock plate motor 0,5 kw Boring motor 0,5 kw weight of the machine ca. ca. 192 kg Dwsdpe Ah Idwefx Aizod

Condition: used, VETTER Krantechnik PROFI Crane System / Two-Rail Portal Crane VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Two-rail portal crane with crane bridge, manual travel unit, and electric chain hoist For sale is a used VETTER PROFI crane system from the manufacturer Vetter Krantechnik GmbH. The system is suitable for assembly work, production, mechanical engineering, maintenance, logistics, as well as the safe lifting and positioning of heavy loads. Technical data Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: P300 Design: PROFI Crane System as a two-rail portal with crane bridge Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Span of crane bridge: 5,890 mm Support distance L: 5,590 mm Support distance B: 5,890 mm Beam length: 6,390 mm Overall dimensions of the system: approx. 6,590 x 6,590 mm UK crane bridge: 4,145 mm UK portal beam: 4,567 mm Overall height: 4,905 mm Classification according to EN 15011: HC2 / S2 Steel structure: 18/30/30 Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Control voltage: 24 V Max. permissible hoist weight: 85 kg Electric chain hoist Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SIXX8AF Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Lifting speed: 4.0 / 1.0 m/min Lifting motor power: 1.50 / 0.37 kW Rated current: 7.7 / 5.4 A FEM class: 2m / M5 Protection class: IP55 Duty cycle: 40 % Number of load chains: 2 Weight at 5 m lift: 65 kg Travel unit / Trolley Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SiCO-HF 2000 A Variant A Load capacity: 2,000 kg Beam width: 66 - 220 mm Weight: 17 kg Equipment Two-rail portal crane system Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF Manual travel unit SiCO-HF 2000 A Load hook Floor control Main switch Conductor rail / Power supply Steel support and beam structure Documentation / Crane test book available Hoist test book available EC declaration of conformity (crane) available EC declaration of conformity (hoist) available Assembly and operating instructions available Accessories as shown in the pictures Application areas Mechanical engineering Assembly work Production Maintenance Workshop operations Material handling Logistics Longest component: approx. 6.4 m Heaviest single component: approx. 300 kg Total weight of the system is approximately between 2,000 and 3,500 kg, depending on the installed steel profiles and foundation plates. Condition Used Optical condition as shown in the pictures System was assembled and in operation Test book and documentation available Scope of delivery VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF 1.6 t Manual travel unit SiCO-HF 2000 A Dwodpszgv U Usfx Aizod Support and beam structure Control / Operating elements Main switch Documentation / Test book EC declarations of conformity Assembly and operating instructions Accessories according to pictures The machines, tools and other items visible in the pictures, which are not explicitly described, are not included in the scope of delivery. Shipping or freight forwarding is possible. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale. We will be happy to answer any further questions by telephone.

Condition: used, VETTER Krantechnik PROFI Crane System / Two-Rail Portal Crane VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Two-rail portal crane with crane bridge, manual trolley, and electric chain hoist For sale is a used VETTER PROFI crane system from the manufacturer Vetter Krantechnik GmbH. The system is suitable for assembly work, production, mechanical engineering, maintenance, logistics, as well as the safe lifting and positioning of heavy loads. Technical Data Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: P300 Design: PROFI Crane System as a two-rail portal with crane bridge Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Span of crane bridge: 5,890 mm Support distance L: 5,570 mm Support distance B: 5,890 mm Length of runway girder: 6,150 mm Length of cross girder: 6,260 mm Overall dimensions of the system: approx. 6,590 x 6,590 mm Bottom flange of crane bridge: 4,085 mm Bottom flange of portal girder: 4,507 mm Overall height: 4,905 mm Ceiling height according to drawing: 5,185 mm Classification according to EN 15011: HC2 / S2 Steel structure group: 18/36/30 Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Control voltage: 24 V Max. permissible hoist weight: 85 kg Electric chain hoist Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SIXX8AF Year of manufacture: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Lifting speed: 4.0 / 1.0 m/min Lifting motor power: 1.50 / 0.37 kW Rated current: 7.7 / 5.4 A FEM class: 2m / M5 Protection class: IP55 Duty cycle: 40 % Number of load strands: 2 Weight at 5 m lift: 65 kg Trolley / traveling carriage Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SiCO-HF 2000 A Variant A Load capacity: 2,000 kg Girder width: 66 - 220 mm Weight: 17 kg Equipment Two-rail portal crane system Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF Manual trolley SiCO-HF 2000 A Load hook Floor control Main switch Conductor line / power supply Steel support and girder structure Documentation / inspection book available EC Declaration of Conformity available Assembly and operating instructions available Accessories according to pictures Application areas Mechanical engineering Assembly work Production Maintenance Workshop operation Material handling Logistics Longest component: approx. 6.3 m Heaviest single component: approx. 300 kg Total weight of the system is estimated to be roughly between 2,000 and 3,500 kg, depending on the installed steel profiles and base plates. Condition Used Optical condition according to pictures System was installed and in operation Inspection book and documentation available Scope of delivery VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Dedozgvx Tjpfx Aizswd Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF 1.6 t Manual trolley SiCO-HF 2000 A Support and girder structure Control / operating elements Main switch Documentation / inspection book EC Declaration of Conformity Assembly and operating instructions Accessories according to pictures The machines, tools and other items visible in the pictures, which are not explicitly described, are not included in the scope of delivery. Shipping or freight forwarding possible. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale. We will gladly answer further questions by telephone.

Year of construction: 2021, condition: used, Alfa Laval T10 Plate Heat Exchanger Industrial Alfa Laval gasketed plate heat exchanger, suitable for efficient heat transfer in industrial process applications. The unit consists of a plate pack mounted in a heavy-duty Alfa Laval frame with inlet and outlet connections. Product details: Dsdpfx Aioz Dix Eszewd Manufacturer: Alfa Laval Type: T10 Equipment: Gasketed plate heat exchanger Quantity available: 2 units Heavy-duty steel frame Removable plate pack Multiple process connections Industrial configuration Condition: Used industrial surplus Both heat exchangers are available individually or together. The units are currently installed and can be inspected prior to purchase. Location: The Netherlands This equipment is industrial surplus and is sold as-is, without warranty or claims. Please contact us for additional information, dimensions, or to make an offer.

Condition: used, VETTER Krantechnik PROFI Crane System / Two-Rail Portal Crane VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Two-rail portal crane with crane bridge, manual traversing unit, and electric chain hoist For sale is a used VETTER PROFI crane system from Vetter Krantechnik GmbH. The system is suitable for assembly work, production, mechanical engineering, maintenance, logistics, as well as the safe lifting and positioning of heavy loads. Technical Data Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: P300 Design: PROFI crane system as a two-rail portal with crane bridge Year of construction: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Span of crane bridge: 5,100 mm Support distance L: 5,570 mm Support distance B: 5,100 mm Beam length: 5,470 mm Overall dimensions of system: approx. 6,020 x 5,800 mm Bottom edge of crane bridge: 4,145 mm Bottom edge of portal beam: 4,567 mm Overall height: 4,905 mm Classification according to EN 15011: HC2 / S2 Steel structure group: 18/30/30 Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Control voltage: 24 V Max. permissible hoist weight: 85 kg Electric chain hoist Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Djdpfx Aszgrzqeizjwd Type: SIXX8AF Year of construction: 2020 Load capacity: 1,600 kg Lifting speed: 4.0 / 1.0 m/min Lifting motor power: 1.50 / 0.37 kW FEM class: 2m / M5 Protection class: IP55 Duty cycle: 40 % Weight at 5 m lift: 65 kg Traversing unit / trolley Manufacturer: Vetter Krantechnik GmbH Type: SiCO-HF 2000 A Variant A Load capacity: 2,000 kg Beam width: 66 - 220 mm Weight: 17 kg Equipment Two-rail portal crane system Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF Manual traversing unit SiCO-HF Load hook Control / operating element Main switch Steel supports and beam structure Documentation / test book available Accessories as shown in the pictures Application areas Mechanical engineering Assembly work Production Maintenance Workshop operation Material handling Logistics Based on experience, the total weight of the system is approximately between 2,000 and 3,500 kg, depending on the installed steel profiles and foundation plates. Condition Used Optical condition as shown in the pictures System was assembled and in operation Test book and documentation available Scope of delivery VETTER P300 PROFI Crane System Crane bridge Electric chain hoist SIXX8AF 1.6 t Manual traversing unit SiCO-HF Support and beam structure Control / operating elements Documentation / test book Accessories as shown in the pictures The machines, tools and other items visible in the pictures, which are not explicitly described, are not included in the scope of delivery. Shipping or forwarding is possible. Subject to changes, errors and prior sale. We would be happy to answer any further questions by telephone.

Condition: good (used), Cast iron bed - Floor Plate Useful surface (L x W x H): 3600 x 1200 x 300 mm 4 T-slots: width 44 x 26 mm Equipped with Levelling feet Weight: approx 3 T Dwjdpfxjz I A Ubo Aizjd

Condition: used, Cast iron bed 2600 x 2000 x 350 mm Length: 2600 mm Width: 2000 mm Dwodpfx Ajz I A Nreizjd Thickness: 350 mm 8 T-slots T-slots dimensions: 55 x 35 mm Slots spacing: 250 mm Equipped with 12 leveling feet Weight: approx 4,5 T

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, load capacity per storage section: 500 kg, 2 completely identical mezzanines, same make and model: Mezzanine 1 – 17.55m x 17.88m = 313.79 m2 for €26,600 (excluding VAT) Mezzanine 2 – 17.55m x 17.88m = 313.79 m2 for €26,600 (excluding VAT) A 760 m2 mezzanine can be created if needed. Very nice industrial mezzanine from 2020, in excellent condition, completely disassembled, labeled, and palletized for easy and quick reassembly. Dwsdpoz Tdhnsfx Aizjd Main features: Allowable load: 500 kg/m² Floor covering: very high-end grating Height under structure (under the steel frame): 4.50 m Height at floor level (on the steel frame): 5.00 m Column spacing: approximately 4.3 m x 5.8 m Condition and packaging: Entire set in very good condition Disassembly carefully carried out by professionals All elements are numbered Labeling and assembly plans provided Entire set ready for reassembly Stored on pallets

Condition: used, Cast iron bed Length: 2300 mm Width: 1900 mm Thickness: 200 mm Height on feet: 980 mm Dwodpfxjz H Ixce Aizsd 5 T-slots horizontal and vertical T-slots dimensions: 60 x 35 mm Square dimensions: 365 x 365 mm Crack at a longitudinal T (see photo) Weight: approx 3 T

Condition: used, Cast bed Dwedpsz Nyc Hofx Aizsd Length: 2410 mm Width: 1500 mm Thickness: 550 mm 8 T-slots 50 x 27 mm with 2 opening (possibility to close them) 1 opening L 560 x W 500 mm 1 opening L 480 x W 360 mm Weight: approx 5 T

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, load capacity: 500 kg, 3 completely identical mezzanines, same make and model: Mezzanine 1 – 32.43m x 9.13m = 296.09m2, priced at €25,000 (excluding VAT) Mezzanine 2 – 32.43m x 8.5m = 275.65m2, priced at €23,400 (excluding VAT) Mezzanine 3 – 32.43m x 7.88m = 255.55m2, priced at €21,700 (excluding VAT) Completely dismantled, identified, and palletized for easy and quick reassembly. Main features: Admissible load: 500 kg/m² Wooden floor, 30 mm thick, in very good condition Height under structure (under beam): 3.00 m Column spacing: approximately 5.5 m x 4 m Column section: 120 x 120 mm Guardrails: approximately 40 linear meters per mezzanine Dwsdpfx Ajz Tdh Uoizod Approximately 20 neon lights per mezzanine Access stairs, additional cost: €1,200 (excluding VAT) Condition and packaging: Entire set in very good condition Dismantling carried out carefully by professionals All elements are numbered Identification and assembly plans provided Entire set ready for reassembly Stored on pallets

Condition: good (used), sheet thickness steel (max.): 16 mm, overall weight: 16,500 kg, cutting length (max.): 3,000 mm, Used high quality Pearson hydraulic 3metre x 16mm guillotine for sale 3metre x 16mm Dwedpfx Aijva Hq Rozod Blade adjustment Front operated powered back gauge

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, FICEP GEMINI MODEL HP25 BED SIZE 10000mm x 2500mm DRILLING HEAD with 6 station automatic tool changer. 80mm CAPACITY. HYPERTHERM HPR 260XD 65mm MILD STEEL CAPACITY. Dwodpfx Ajz Hfcxjizjd GE FANUC CNC CONTROL YEAR OF MANUFACTURE 2011.

Condition: excellent (used), working width: 3,000 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 10 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 10 mm, cutting length (max.): 3,100 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, Used Very Clean Hydraulic Industrial Sheet Metal shear / Guillotine Edwards Pearson VE shear 3metre x 10mm in excellent used condition For Sale Capacity 3070mm x 10mm. Squaring Arms and Work Supports. Front operated Powered Back Gauge Serviced with Bystronic UK Complete with: Dwedjuv Hpijpfx Aized Swissax 2000 control with automatic backstop blade gap adjustment and rake adjustment

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2020, roller diameter: 60 mm, working width: 1,050 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 1 mm, roll metal bending machine Isitan 1050 X 1.2mm Manual 3 roll Bending Machine, excellent condition for sale Dwedpfx Aiowk Rlxozsd manufacturer: Isitan 1050X1.2 max sheet width: 1050mm max sheet thickness: 1.2 mm Wire grooves at the ends of the rollers Conical bender roller diameter: 60mm Upper roller removable for easy workpiece removal machine dimensions: length: 130cm height: 100cm width: 65cm weight: 240kg

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2010, conveyor belt length: 3,000 mm, conveyor belt width: 500 mm, The plastic slat conveyor belt shown in the photos is for sale. The drive unit is missing (it was transferred to another belt), but the conveyor belt itself is in perfect condition. Dwodpfx Aioy Nczpozod

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1982, machine/vehicle number: 10628, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Loading: December 1st to December 10th. TECHNICAL DETAILS General Information Machine type: hydraulic squaring shear Machine weight: approx. 5 t Working area Sheet metal width: 3,000 mm Sheet metal thickness: 4 mm Frame width: 3,300 mm Back gauge: 700 mm Cutting data Dode Aa A A Aepfx Aizjwd Stroke rate: 19–50 strokes/min Motor power: 7.5 kW Total power requirement: approx. 10 kW Dimensions Space requirement: approx. 3.7 × 1.5 × 1.9 m EQUIPMENT 2 stop blocks Digital display Illuminated cutting gap Additional bar with a length of 2.6 m

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: GM 2 500.4-2, Year of construction: 2018, load capacity: 500 kg, ABUS wall-mounted jib crane, 500 kg x 5000 mm – in excellent condition, including inspection log (year of manufacture 2018) Description: For sale is a highly reliable ABUS wall-mounted jib crane, originally owned. The system was purchased new by us in 2018 and has been in our possession ever since, always being used with care. All required, recurring UVV inspections according to DGUV Regulation 52 have been carried out completely and regularly. The crane is in perfect technical condition and ready for immediate use. Technical data & details: • Manufacturer: ABUS Cranes • Type: Wall-mounted jib crane VW • Load capacity: 500 kg Dwodo Ahyb Aspfx Aizod • Outreach: 5,000 mm • Year of manufacture: 2018 (original owner) • Serial number: 152-010834 • Mounting compatibility: The mounting for the wall-mounted jib crane is designed for a steel beam HEA 550-300. Scope of delivery & documentation (complete): • Crane inspection log (with complete DGUV records) • Original operating manual for ABUS wall-mounted jib crane VM • Original product manual We have the original invoice and can provide it digitally if you are seriously interested in purchasing. The crane is available for immediate delivery. Inspection and demonstration are possible by arrangement. Terms of sale and delivery: • Pricing: Ex works (net, plus VAT). • Logistics: The buyer is responsible for organizing and carrying out the dismantling, loading, and collection, or for engaging a forwarding agent to do so. • Technical specifications according to available documentation. Subject to prior sale. If you have any questions or require further information, please send us a message or call us.

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2002, working width: 3,000 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 6 mm, total width: 3,000 mm, cutting length (max.): 3,000 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, table width: 3,000 mm, Equipment: finger protection, lighting, safety light barrier, Used Edwards Pearson 3metre x 6.5mm hydraulic sheet metal guillotine for sale Dwodpfxsuykdxe Aizsd EDWARDS PEARSON Model VR – 3000mm x 6.5mm Guillotine (2002) Model: VR6.5/3070 Hydraulic Variable Rake Programmable Back Gauge Auto Blade Gap Adjustment Front Supports & Squaring Arm Popular CYBELEC DNC 60 control Year 2002 Delivery and installation with operator training can be included