Used Rack Milling Machine for sale (95,531)

Condition: excellent (used), fuel type: diesel, color: yellow, first registration: 01/2018, Year of construction: 2018, Drive: Track Unladen weight: 30,000 kg Technical condition: very good Visual condition: very good Price: On request CATERPILLAR PM 622 ASPHALT MILLING MACHINE 4 x track drive Working width: 2235 mm Working depth: 0-330 mm 193 milling picks Hydraulically foldable discharge conveyor CAT Grade Control automatic levelling 2 x operator consoles with LC display Hydraulically liftable side plates Rear-view camera Weather protection roof, foldable Driver's seats Work lights Cleaning system CAT Diesel engine, C18 622 HP Hnsdpfxjuxu Eqe Ag Neu Original paint FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: GEURTSTRUCKS WE SPEAK GERMAN WE SPEAK ENGLISH HABLAMOS ESPAÑOL

Condition: used, x-travel 800 mm Hnsdpfoxndb Sox Ag Nou y-travel 600 mm z-travel 550 mm Control Deckel Dialog 11 In our opinion, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment. Accessories, tools and clamping devices shown are only included in the scope of delivery if this is noted in the additional information. Subject to changes and errors in the technical data and information as well as prior sale!

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1992, functionality: fully functional, Technical details x-travel 300 mm y-travel 160 mm z-travel 290 mm table surface area 210 x 600 mm table load max. 200 kg Hnjdpsxl Tcgofx Ag Nou tool taper SK 40 spindle turning speed range (16) 40 - 2000 U/min feeds -stepless- 5 - 500 mm/min rapid traverse 1,2 m/min spindle motor 1,5 / 1,9 kW total power requirement 9,5 kVA weight of the machine ca. 730 kg dimensions of the machine ca. 2000 x 2200 x 1655 mm Additional information The machine is in very good condition and comes from a research centre. Equipment: 3-axis active digital readout made by Heidenhain TNC 113 Fixed angle table Coolant equipment Kelch mounting block Machine vise Counterholding device for the horizontal spindle

Condition: used, Universal tool milling machine DECKEL type FP 1 Machine no. 51265 Year of manufacture approx. 1967 Travel X: 300 mm Y: 150 mm Z: 340 mm Table size: 600 x 210 mm Spindle taper: SK 40 - S20 x 2 Spindle speed: 40-2000 rpm, 16 steps Motor power: 1.0 and 1.6 kW, pole-changeable Power supply: 380 Volt, 50 Hz - Power feed on X and Z axes - Spindle speed via 2 motor speeds and 8 gear stages Hedpfxeghtvas Ag Nsnu - Quill travel on vertical milling head 60 mm - Fixed angle table - Separate control cabinet Required space L x W x H: 1100 x 1100 x 1600 mm Weight: 650 kg Good condition

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, x-travel 6000 mm y-travel 1600 mm z-travel 1300 mm control FIDIA C20 /4H-SB tool taper SK50 spindle turning speed range 22 - 4000 U/min SHW – UFZ5 Year of manufacture: 2000 Specifications X-axis 6000 mm Y-axis 1600 mm (stroke with vertical head rotated 1900 mm) Z-axis 1300 mm Orthogonal head 2 axes, indexed 1° Automatically swivelling milling head holder (rear) 360x1 degree Automatically swivelling milling head holder (front) 180x1 degree Control: Fidia - C20 / 4H-SB SK 50 - DIN 69871 Infinitely variable feed range; X-axis: 2–12,000 mm/min. Y-axis: 2–18,000 mm/min. Z-axis: 2–18,000 mm/min. Rapid traverse; X-axis: 12,000 mm/min. Y-axis: 18,000 mm/min. Z-axis: 18,000 mm/min. Spindle/auto. Milling head: Speed 22 - 4,000 rpm Torque max. 1180 Nm Total current load: approx. 50 kVA/80 A. Hnsdpfsxmaqyjx Ag Nsu Without clamping plate Without chip conveyor

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1987, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 315 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 450 mm, overall weight: 2,300 kg, table length: 1,300 mm, table width: 280 mm, power: 3.7 kW (5.03 HP), Spindle taper: ISO 40 RPM.: 85-1300. Travel: X1000 Y315 Z450 mm. Table size: 1300 x 280 mm. Hsdpoxpftfjfx Ag Nonu Automatic feed: X & Y Rapid speed: X, Y & Z. Motor: 3,7 kW. Digital readout: Newall DP 700 (X, Y & Z). Year: 1987 Country of origin: Taiwan. Size (L x W x H): 1650 x 2100 x 2000 mm. Weight: 2300 kg. All our machines are tested and serviced before delivery.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, Soraluce model FL8000 high performance travelling column, floor type CNC milling machine TRAVEL (X) 7,500 mm TRAVEL (Y) 1,400 mm TRAVEL (Z) 1,000 mm RAPID TRAVERSE (X,Y,Z) 25,000 mm/min WORKING FEED RANGE (X,Y,Z) 1 – 10,000 mm/min ACCELERATION RATE (Instantaneous not maximum) 1 m/sec2 SPINDLE SPEED 20 - 4,000 Rpm SPINDLE TAPER ISO 50 SPINDLE POWER 28 Kw NC15C - HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 (Flat 15.1" TFT Screen with digital drives). Single processor version. Prepared for a machine of 10 motors (9 CNC axes + spindle motor). Main push button panel with individually operated push buttons for linear axes (X+, X-, Y+, Y-, Z+, Z-) K20 smarT.NC option for the i530M. Independent AC. Heidenhain digital drive servomotor for each axis HEIDENHAIN HR-410 portable electronic handwheel with 5m spiral cable Hjdpjw U Tlzefx Ag Nenu Automatic Indexing head 28Kw, 760Nm, 0.001°x 0.001°, 4000 Rpm. Continuous air and oil mist lubrication system for head gears. Automatic Tool Clamping device – 15,000N. Automatic hydraulic tool releasing device Spindle taper: BT50 High Torque spindle motor 28kW, 100% ED, digital motor. R10 – ZF gearbox two speed including cooling unit Spindle Speed Range 20 – 4,000Rpm Rapid Feed X-Y-Z axes 25.000mm/min Working Feed range X-Y-Z axes 0 - 10.000mm/min Acceleration rate X- Y -Z axes 1 m/s2 (instantaneous, not maximum) Hydraulic counterbalance system for head/ram assembly X axis driving system by two servomotors, two gearboxes and a double rack & pinion Preloaded ballscrews with double recirculating nuts in Y and Z axes. Automatic centralized lubrication system. Linear Guiding System with recirculating cylindrical rollers in each axis. Automatic centralized lubrication system for the guides. HEIDENHAIN Linear measuring scales in X-Y-Z axes with compressed air purge system - (Precision +/- 0,005mm) H48 – Coolant through the spindle type AD. M3 – Automatic tool changer 40 stations. M6 – Horizontal-vertical tool changing facility. M8 – Motorized tool changing device. Tool changer is driven by a servo motor Hydraulic equipment Front metallic roller blind cover to both upper and lower ram area, together with metallic protection to the lateral side of the column, between the machine table and the rear guideway support, which protects the vertical movement of the ram. CE10 - PROTECTION on the back and both lateral sides of the machine column P20 - Operator's platform fixed to the column and travels together with it in the "X" axis direction. The main operator’s panel is mounted within the operator's platform area for machines without an operator’s pendant and is accessed from the rear of the machine. D7 + D50A - Coolant system with 1000L capacity tank with two pumps providing high and low pressure providing 5 & 12bar and 50L/min flow rate. Paper and Magnetic filtering. E30A – swarf conveyor FL8000 Hinge conveyor belt. Width 350mm PW11B – Pendulum working area system. PM2 x 2 – Machine prepared by Soraluce for the inclusion of two rotary tables. Working area lighting. Electrical cabinet cooling system Electrical cabinet lighting Working methods - According to CE safety regulations Filter to assure electromagnetic compatibility. Protection to both sides of the column with security bumpers Anchoring Bolts Standard Colour - Blue RAL 5005 / Grey RAL 7035 K19 – Two sets of machine documentation (One hard copy, one on CD ROM) Floor plate 8,000 x 1,500 x 300mm

Condition: ready for operation (used), 1 used bed type milling machine Manufacturer: Knuth Model: KB 1400 Year: 2006 Technical Specifications: Working Area Distance spindle axis to table surface: 150 mm – 650 mm Number of T-slots: 3 Table clamping surface: 1400 mm x 400 mm T-slot width: 18 mm T-slot spacing: 100 mm Height adjustment speed (max.): 1670 mm/min Hjdpsxnp Epofx Ag Nenu Travel X-axis travel: 950 mm Y-axis travel: 400 mm Z-axis travel: 500 mm Vertical Milling Head Spindle taper: SK 50 DIN 2080 Overhang: 510 mm Spindle speed (vertical): 30 rpm – 1800 rpm Quill stroke: 105 mm Head swivel range: ±30° Rapid Traverse Rapid traverse X-axis: 1670 mm/min Rapid traverse Y-axis: 1670 mm/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 1670 mm/min Feed Feed speed X-axis: 18 mm/min – 627 mm/min Feed speed Y-axis: 18 mm/min – 627 mm/min Feed speed Z-axis: 18 mm/min – 627 mm/min Drive Capacity Main drive motor power: 7.5 kW Feed motor power: 0.75 kW Z-axis motor power: 0.75 kW Coolant pump motor power: 0.04 kW Dimensions and Weight Coolant pump flow rate: 12 l/min Dimensions (L x W x H): 2.29 m x 1.77 m x 2.12 m Weight: 3660 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1996, feed length X-axis: 700 mm, feed length Y-axis: 550 mm, feed length Z-axis: 500 mm, travel distance X-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 550 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, feed rate X-axis: 10,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 10,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 10,000 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 4,500 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 25 rpm, rapid traverse X-axis: 10,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 10,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 10,000 m/min, mount diameter: 40 mm, table length: 1,000 mm, table width: 500 mm, overall weight: 3,500 kg, X-axis / longitudinal 700 mm Y-axis / transverse 550 mm Z-axis / vertical 500 mm Table dimensions 1000 x 500 mm Spindle speed range stepless in 3 gear steps 25 - 4200 rpm Tool holder SK 40 Feed range X-Y-Z 1 - 10000 mm/min Rapid traverse X-Y-Z 10000 mm/min Weight approx. 3500 kg Control: Heidenhain TNC 407 - TNC 415 Hnsdpjxg Rxbofx Ag Neu

Condition: good (used), travel distance X-axis: 2,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,600 mm, Manufacturer: SORALUCE Type: TL-25 Control: HeidenHain TNC 430 Year of manufacture: 1998 Aiptek ATC 30 positions Automatic head 2.5 x 2.5 Gr Central lubrication Machine housing with front doors Large tool package Specifications Metric US Standard X-axis 2500 mm Y-axis 1000 mm Z-axis 1600 mm Table length 2860 mm Table width 1000 mm Table load 7500 Spindle power 25 kW Spindle speed 0 - 3000 rpm Tool holder 50 ISO/Bt/Mk X-axis feed 10000 mm/min. Y-axis feed 10000 mm/min. Z-axis feed 10000 mm/min. Milling head auto index 2.5 x 2.5° Working hours 12500 H Dimensions (estimate) Length 6000 mm Width 3500 mm Height 3500 mm Weight 15000 kg Please note: The information on this page is correct to the best of our knowledge and belief and, where possible, has been obtained from the manufacturer. The information is given in good faith but its accuracy cannot be guaranteed. Accordingly, it will not constitute a representation and terms of contract. We recommend that you check all important details. Hnodpfx Agsv Idale Nou

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table width: 1,100 mm, table load: 10,000 kg, table length: 3,100 mm, overall weight: 27,000 kg, torque: 1,178 Nm, spindle motor power: 53 W, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, BRAND NEW BED TYPE MILLING MACHINE WITH INTEGRATED ROTARY TABLE Control and Motors: HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 digital path control HEIDENHAIN package (motors, measurement systems, and handwheel) Integrated rotary table: Ø 1,000 mm ICS: Internal coolant supply - 36 bar Hnsdpfx Asm Tv Iijg Nou Additional equipment: Standard tool changer with double gripper, 40 stations Double hinged belt chip conveyor (longitudinal), one at the front and one at the rear Peripheral enclosure Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: 0.015 mm Repeatability: 0.008 mm Only inquiries from Germany will be answered // Only inquiries from Germany will be processed

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, spindle speed (max.): 1,200 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 8 rpm, overall weight: 3,850 kg, Spindle taper: ISO 40 RPM.: 8-1200. Travel: X1500 Y700 Z500 mm. Table size: 2000 x 420 mm. Automatic feed: X, Y & Z. Rapid speed: X, Y & Z. Country of origin: France. Size (L x W x H): 2000 x 2200 x 1700 mm. Hnjdpjxn R U Sjfx Ag Nsu Weight: 3850 kg. Rapid speed, and automatic feed in X, Y & Z. With vice.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 3,064 h, Applicable material: Asphalt Serial number: 10188210xxxx Please contact ATS Norway for more information Please provide reference number upon request: 20327 Specifications: - 2013 model - 3064 hours - Deutz engine - Hydraulic lift and lower - Milling width of 60 cm - Lower and raise function on the roof - Ready for delivery Description: We have a 2013 Bomag BM600/15 Asphalt milling machine for sale. Everything works as it should according to the owner. Services have been carried out at our own workshop. The milling width is 60 cm. Errors and defects may occur. Ready for delivery Hedpfx Agewi Rc Us Njnu Hours: 3064 Own weight: 6800 Model: BM600/15

Condition: used, The Servomill® UFM 8 V, a state-of-the-art Conventional Vertical Milling Machine from KNUTH, is designed to enhance efficiency and precision in various machining applications. With its horizontal spindle and swiveling vertical milling head, this robust machine boasts a wide speed range and a large clamping table that accommodates various workpieces and clamping devices. The Servomill’s advanced electronic features, including infinitely variable servomotor feed and electronic handwheels, provide users with the intuitive operation reminiscent of CNC systems without the need for programming. Ideal for repair workshops and training departments, the UFM 8 V combines conventional milling practices with significant advancements in reliability and maintenance-free operation, thanks to high-quality servo drives and preloaded ball screws. With an operational output of up to 5000 rpm and integrated features such as a coolant system and pneumatic tool clamping, this model promises both productivity and ease of use. Experience the next level of milling technology with the Servomill UFM 8 V. Request a quote today to see how this remarkable machine from the Conventional Vertical Milling Machines product group can elevate your production capabilities. Hnjdpfxjv Amixj Ag Nsu

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2019, Serial no.: 8.851.053, milling unit, material thickness 2 - 6 mm, speed 12,000 rpm, 10 pressure rollers, model Fresatrice Pigatrice Alu Bender, 8 ball roller tables, each approx. 1,900 x 900 mm, aluminium Hsdpfxoxl At Is Ag Nonu

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, x-travel 4000 mm y-travel 1400 mm z-travel 1500 mm Control Heidenhain TNC 426 Hnjdpfexnq Dmex Ag Nju total power requirement 30 kW

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table width: 1,200 mm, table load: 6,000 kg, table length: 1,600 mm, torque: 1,178 Nm, power: 31 kW (42.15 HP), Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, BRAND NEW BED TYPE MILLING MACHINE WITH ROTARY TABLE Control and Motors: HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 CNC control system HEIDENHAIN package (motors, measuring systems, and handwheel) IKZ: Internal coolant supply – 36 bar Rotary Table: 1600 x 1200 mm – dual motor drive system Additional Equipment: Standard tool changer with double gripper, 40 stations Double hinged belt chip conveyor (longitudinal), one at the front and one at the rear Hjdpfsff Hz Hex Ag Nsnu Full perimeter enclosure Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ± 0.015 mm Repeatability: ± 0.008 mm Only inquiries from Germany will be answered.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 800 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 345 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, spindle speed (max.): 3,750 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 50 rpm, table length: 1,370 mm, table width: 280 mm, overall weight: 1,500 kg, Spindle taper: ISO 40 RPM.: 50-3750 (trinløs). Hnsdpfx Agjxn R Tzj Nju Travel: X800 Y345 Z400 mm. Table size: 1370 x 280 mm. Automatic feed: X, Y & Z. Rapid speed: X, Y & Z. Motor: 4 HP. Digital readout: Fagor, 3-axis Year: 2002 Country of origin: Spain. Size (L x W x H): 2000 x 2000 x 2350 mm. Weight: 1500 kg. Travel ram: 570 mm. With stepless spindle speed, motorized tool clamping, pneumatic spindle brake, drilling function in head with automatic feed and misc. tools.

Condition: used, The FPK 5 is a top-of-the-line Conventional Vertical Milling Machine within the Toolroom Milling Machines category, offering a versatile and robust solution for various milling applications. This universal tool milling machine stands out with its vertical and horizontal spindle configuration, swiveling vertical head, and extensive clamping surfaces, making it an excellent choice for tool and mold making, repair workshops, and educational environments. Designed for flexibility, the FPK 5 excels in single-part construction and small to medium-sized batches, thanks to its easy setup and reliable operation without extensive programming. The machine features exceptional rigidity and performance, a heavy fixed-angle table with high load capacity, and a manual central lubrication system for optimal maintenance. With standard equipment that includes a coolant system, 3-axis position indicator, and easily accessible controls, the FPK 5 is engineered to enhance efficiency and precision. Experience the reliability of KNUTH engineering with this advanced milling machine; buy now to elevate your machining capabilities. Hsdpfx Aewut Evjg Nonu

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2016, Machine No.: 0-250-21-2117, Control system by Homag, type powerControl V2.0, travel paths X/Y/Z: 8,400 x 3,270 x 410 / 185 mm, nesting working level, traverse speed X/Y/Z: 130 x 130 x 20 m/min, workpiece thickness 125 mm, support table 7,400 x 2,250 mm, max. workpiece passage height 100 mm, milling unit, 3 controlled axes, liquid cooling system, 24,000 rpm, drilling unit with 18 spindles for vertical drilling, saw unit, 2 tool changers with 14 holders each, stacking system by Eurotech, type PJ-16.003, year of manufacture: 2013, max. format 6,000 x 2,000 mm, max. weight 290 kg, with protective enclosure, outfeed belt width 2,000 mm, including triple extraction, switch and fuse cabinets. Hedpfsxl Afwox Ag Njnu

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, x-travel 4000 mm y-travel 1400 mm Hodpjxnq Dgofx Ag Nsnu z-travel 1500 mm Control Heidenhain TNC 426 total power requirement 30 kW

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 6,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 2,000 mm, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, pivoting range: 1 °, table length: 7,500 mm, table width: 1,100 mm, torque: 1,178 Nm, table load: 42,000 kg, coolant supply: 36 bar, spindle motor power: 53 W, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, BRAND NEW FLOOR TYPE MILLING MACHINE Hnjdpfx Aovrv Susg Neu Controls and Motors: Two HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 digital CNC controls (one at the front of the machine, one at the rear in the cabin) HEIDENHAIN package (motors, measuring systems, and handwheel) Additional equipment: Tool changer with double gripper, 60 positions Dual hinged belt chip conveyor (longitudinal), one at the front and one at the rear Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ±0.040 mm Repeatability: ±0.008 mm Only inquiries from Germany will receive a response // Only inquiries from Germany will be processed

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,050 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 330 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 475 mm, spindle speed (max.): 1,800 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 35 rpm, overall weight: 2,600 kg, table length: 1,525 mm, table width: 325 mm, Spindle taper: ISO 50 RPM.: 35-1800 variable. Hjdpfxjxn R Tne Ag Nsnu Travel: X1050 Y330 Z475 mm. Table size: 1525 x 325 mm. Automatic feed: X, Y & Z. Rapid speed: X, Y & Z. Motor: 5,5 kW. Digital readout: Fagor Innova (Z). Year: 2002 Country of origin: Spain. Size (L x W x H): 2400 x 2500 x 2200 mm. Weight: 2600 kg. Variable speed in 2 gears.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), The Servomill® UWF 5 is a top model in the Conventional Vertical Milling Machines category, expertly designed by KNUTH to deliver outstanding performance in the milling process. Featuring servo-conventional feed technology and a swiveling cutter head on two levels, it provides versatility for various applications, particularly in tool making and manufacturing. This powerful machine boasts a large work area, robust construction, and a user-friendly interface with electronic hand wheels, making it easier for operators to achieve high precision without the need for complex programming. Notable features include preloaded ball screws on all axes, enabling jolt-free positioning and minimal wear, along with a powerful 7.5 kW horizontal spindle for superior machining results. With a strong focus on reliability and long service life, the Servomill UWF 5 is suitable for advanced manufacturing. To explore more about the capabilities of this incredible milling machine, request a quote today and discover how it can enhance your Conventional Vertical Milling Machines lineup. Hnodpfx Ajuy Ih Iog Neu

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 6,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,200 mm, feed rate X-axis: 10,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 20,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 15,000 m/min, table length: 6,000 mm, table width: 2,400 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table load: 19,000 kg, position of the milling head: vertikal, torque: 1,350 Nm, spindle nose: SK 50, spindle motor power: 53 W, warranty duration: 12 months, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, Control system and motors: HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 digital path control HEIDENHAIN package (motors, measuring systems, handwheel) IKZ: Internal coolant supply, 70 bar Additional equipment: Tool changer with double gripper, 60 positions Hjdohy Avtjpfx Ag Nenu Double auger conveyor (longitudinal) Hinged belt chip conveyor (crosswise) Preparation for 4th axis (rotary table) Full enclosure, top closed Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: 0.045 mm Repeatability: 0.030 mm Only inquiries from Germany will receive a response