Used Rosa Iron 12.6 for sale (1,717)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, operating hours: 14,000 h, Chiron Mill FX 800 machining center with 148-position background magazine Dedpfjtvz Azex Abajkn TECHNICAL DATA Travel, X-axis: 800 mm Travel, Y-axis: 630 mm Travel, Z-axis: 550 mm Swivel axis: +- 120 ° Rotary axis: 360° Rapid traverse speed, X-axis: 60 m/min Rapid traverse speed, Y-axis: 60 m/min Rapid traverse speed, Z-axis: 60 m/min Spindle, max. torque: 180 Nm Spindle power: 17.0 - 47.2 kW Spindle, speed: 12`000 rpm Tool holder: HSK-A 63 Rotary table, diameter: 280 mm Thread and fitting hole pattern M16 x 15 H7 X 50 Load capacity: 320 kg SCOPE OF OFFER U.A: (list not exhaustive): Chiron machining center, Year of construction: 2015 Knoll chip conveyor 750 K-1/150 BMF TPF 350S high-pressure pump Renishaw RLP40Q touch probe Receiver: Renishaw RMI-Q Mechatronic flow sensor SB0500 Background magazine, 148-fold Operating documentation Exact scope of supply according to photo gallery No responsibility is taken for the correctness, completeness and up-to-dateness of the information.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 730 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 360 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 75 m/min, Axis travel: X = 730 mm Y = 400 mm Z = 360 mm Rapid traverse rate: 75 m/min Maximum spindle speed: 12,000 rpm (15 kW motor) Tool change time: 2.5 s (chip-to-chip) Serial number: 139-26 (2009) The machine is in good condition. Loading is included in the price. Key technical parameters are listed below. Siemens control system. The machine has 2 pallets. Dkjdpfx Aey U Hp Isbasn

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1999, Chiron FZ 12 W High Speed Year: 1999 Control: Siemens Sinumerik Type: Vertical machining center with pallet changer Axes travel X axis: approx. 550 mm Y axis: approx. 300 mm Z axis: approx. 425 mm Spindle Spindle taper: SK40 Spindle speed: approx. 10,000 to 10,500 rpm Spindle motor power: approx. 9 to 15 kW Tool system Tool changer capacity: approx. 12 to 20 positions Max tool weight: approx. 4 kg Tool holder: SK40 Table Table size: approx. 660 x 350 mm Dkjdpfjy E Ihgsx Abasn Max workpiece weight: approx. 150 kg Table type: pallet changer system Electrical data Voltage: 400 V or 230 V Frequency: 50 to 60 Hz Power consumption: approx. 11 kVA Current: approx. 15 A Machine dimensions and weight Weight: approx. 4000 kg Length: approx. 3000 to 3500 mm Width: approx. 2500 to 3000 mm Height: approx. 2500 to 3000 mm Coolant system Manufacturer: Knoll Type: 340 K 1 600 Year: 1999

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, Unique opportunity to purchase this high quality CHIRON 5-axis machining center for profiles. Built and first use in 2020. Djdpfx Abjyt I Uhoajkn The spindle was replaced in June 2022 and currently has 4500 operation hours. Machine is in very good condition and it can be inspected under power upon appointment. Availability: on request Including: Chip conveyor (scraper type) Profile bar feeder for bar lengths up to 6 m, for guiding profiles up to Ø 212 mm Coolant system TPF 350 / FKA 900 Coolant through the spindle Fixed 3D probe Type TS 27 R – RENISHAW Renishaw RLP40Q probe system Cnc control SIEMENS 840D X-axis 730 mm Y-axis 400 mm Z-axis 425 mm Maximum spindle speed 15,000 rpm Maximum torque 140 Nm Drilling capacity Ø 42 mm Thread tapping M30 Tool magazine capacity 20 tools Tool taper DIN 69893 HSK A63 Maximum tool diameter 65 mm Milling capacity 500 cm³/min in E355 steel Full technincal specifications in the attached document. Optional: ARMIN automatic robot cell (2024)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 464-61, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: Sinumerik, workpiece length (max.): 300 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 200 mm, total height: 2,400 mm, total length: 3,200 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, overall weight: 22,000 kg, spindle nose: HSK-A32, number of slots in tool magazine: 12, mount diameter: 32 mm, tool length: 160 mm, tool diameter: 63 mm, input voltage: 400 V, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, Very well-maintained machine from training workshop and demonstration. Fully functional and immediately ready for use. Equipped with NC indexing device, manufacturer: PEISELER, type: AWUP 100. Includes comprehensive machine documentation as well as 2 spare filters. Dksdpey Sghlsfx Abajn

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1997, operating hours: 40,000 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 179-49, travel distance X-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 520 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 630 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 40 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30 m/min, controller manufacturer: Fanuc OMC, total height: 3,040 mm, total length: 3,920 mm, total width: 2,400 mm, table width: 550 mm, table length: 2,700 mm, overall weight: 7,200 kg, spindle speed (min.): 20 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 10,500 rpm, coolant supply: 30 bar, number of slots in tool magazine: 40, tool length: 250 mm, tool diameter: 75 mm, input voltage: 400 V, FZ 22 long-bed, fully functional and still in daily operation. The machine is being replaced and can be inspected at any time during regular opening hours. Djdpjy R D Dujfx Abaokn

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 1991, operating hours: 40,000 h, functionality: limited functionality, machine/vehicle number: 109-43, travel distance X-axis: 550 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 425 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 20 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 20 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 20 m/min, feed rate X-axis: 4,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 4,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 4,000 m/min, nominal power (apparent): 13 kVA, torque: 35 Nm, controller manufacturer: Fanuc OMB, controller model: 9030556, workpiece length (max.): 220 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 65 mm, total height: 2,600 mm, total length: 2,800 mm, total width: 1,800 mm, table width: 370 mm, table height: 900 mm, table length: 950 mm, table load: 500 kg, overall weight: 2,500 kg, spindle speed (min.): 20 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, distance table center to spindle nose: 615 mm, number of slots in tool magazine: 12, input voltage: 380 V, Equipment: chip conveyor, rotational speed infinitely variable, Chiron Fz 12 S, year of manufacture 1991. Additional indexing device. Currently with a measurement system error on the B-axis. The machine can be inspected at any time during regular opening hours. Dkedpey R Dqhefx Abaon

Condition: defective spare-parts repository (used), functionality: not functional, controller manufacturer: Siemens, table width: 470 mm, table length: 990 mm, overall weight: 5,500 kg, spindle speed (max.): 10,500 rpm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Note: The machine is defective. The control system does not power up, so it requires repair or can be used as a source of spare parts. Otherwise, the machine is in good mechanical condition. TECHNICAL DETAILS Spindle speed: 10,500 rpm Table length: 990 mm Table width: 470 mm MACHINE DETAILS Dksdoy Ni Agspfx Abaen Control manufacturer: Siemens Machine weight: 5,500 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2013, If some parts shown by hand, that parts not come with machine. Dkedpjy Awxpefx Abajn Technical data shown on picture.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, x-travel 300 mm Dkjdowth Sbepfx Abaon y-travel 250 mm z-travel 251 mm Control Fanuc 16iMB max. turning speeds 15.000 min/-1 tool taper HSK-A 32 number of tool places 12 Pos. In our opinion, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment. Accessories, tools, and clamping devices shown are only included in the scope of delivery if noted in the additional information. Subject to changes and errors in the technical data and information, as well as subject to prior sale!

Year of construction: 1962, condition: good (used), machine/vehicle number: 162487, Suction capacity: 50 l/min Max. operating pressure: 10 bar Compressor speed: 1400 rpm Boiler: Dsdpfx Abedyp R Roaokn Operating pressure: 10 bar Capacity: 50 l

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1999, travel distance X-axis: 300 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 250 mm, Vertical milling center Chiron FZ08W Fanuc 21i-M Max RPM: 15,000 rpm High-pressure spindle through-cooling X = 300 mm Y = 250 mm Z = 250 mm The machine was originally supplied with 2 x 4th axis Peiseler RT 100, but the 4th axes have now been removed. Tool interface: HSK 32 ATC: 24 positions Serial: Yrzzng Dkjdpfsxd T Rzex Abaon Machine is currently in production and can be inspected at any time. The machine is in very good technical condition. I offer a 3-month startup warranty.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2002, CHIRON FZ 15S with 4 axis in Perfect Condition Dksdpforgqu Hjx Abasn Machine can be inspected any time under power

Condition: good (used), CHIRON FZ 08 KS Magnum is a 5‑axis machining center engineered for precision, high accuracy and reliable production. Travels X450×Y270×Z310 mm; drilling 12 mm; tapping M8. Tool magazine 24 pos., tool Ø max 47 mm (100 mm free), length 160 mm, tool wt 1.2 kg. Spindle HSK‑A40 0–36000 rpm; spindle motor 7 kW; rapid 75 m/min; 3×400V 50Hz; air 6 bar; installed power 14 kW (19 kVA); machine ≈3400 kg; dims 2308×1405×2447 mm. Features: tool‑break control, RS232, switch‑cabinet air‑con, status light. Delivers tight tolerances for automotive, aerospace, medical, watchmaking. Djdpfx Abeyxn Hcsaskn

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 22,500 h, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 270 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 310 mm, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: 840D, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, number of axes: 3, This 5-axis CHIRON FZ 08K S Magnum SK was manufactured in 2007. It features a Siemens 840D control unit, with impressive travels of 450 mm in the X-axis, 270 mm in the Y-axis, and 310 mm in the Z-axis. The machine includes a 40-position tool changer and a high-pressure coolant system. If you are looking to get high-quality machining capabilities, consider the CHIRON FZ 08K S Magnum SK vertical machining centre we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Overhaul: Factory overhauled and technically updated by Chiron (CMS) in 2017 • Last Spindle Replacement: September 2025 • Last Maintenance: Major annual service (4,000 h) performed in October 2025 • NC Swivel Head Range: −20° / +115° Dedpfxeypb Tpj Abajkn • Rapid Feed X/Y/Z: 75 m/min • Acceleration X/Y/Z: 1g / 1.5g / 2g • Tool Changer: 40 positions, HSK-A40 • Chip-to-Chip Time: 2.6 s (vertical) • Rotary Table: AWU 160 with D105 mm positioning axis • Operating Hours: Approximately 22,500 h Additional equipment • Clamping: Hainbuch Spanntop D100 collet chuck • Bar Loader: IRCO SiMag 100.1-3000 for round and profile material • High Pressure Coolant: 70 bar with Vario valve • Coolant Filtration: Knoll VRF, 400-liter vacuum rotation filter • Chip Conveyor: Scraper belt, 1,050 mm discharge height • Measurement/Monitoring: Renishaw TS27R 3D touch probe; tool life monitoring; tool breakage control • Collision Monitoring: Brankamp Marposs CMS 100 • Guide Channel Sets: Breuning IRCO sets included (by arrangement) • Collets: Hainbuch collets included (by arrangement) • Tool Holders: Approximately 500 pieces HSK-A40 • Spare Parts: Included for this machine type • Operating Materials: Specific operating fluids/materials included

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 13,572 h, travel distance X-axis: 800 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 530 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 450 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: 31i-B5, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 22,000 W, tool weight: 8,000 g, number of axes: 5, This 5-axis CHIRON FZ18W was manufactured in 2019, featuring a FANUC 31i-B5 control system and continuous 5-axis control. It boasts a spindle speed of up to 12,000 rpm, a tool capacity of 70, and rapid traverse rates of 75 m/min. Ideal for complex machining tasks with its automatic pallet changer and dual rotary tables. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities consider the CHIRON FZ18W machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. • Number of axes: 5 (X, Y, Z + 2 rotary axes via pallet/rotary table) • Spindle: Dkjdsyaz Emspfx Abaen • AC spindle motor: 7.5 kW (100% duty), 22.0 kW (10% duty) • Max torque: 140 Nm • Taper: HSK-A63 (DIN 69893) • Drilling capacity: Ø 42 mm • Tapping capacity: M30 • Milling capacity: 500 cm³/min (steel E355) • Tool changer: • Type: Fully enclosed chain magazine • Capacity: 70 tools • Max tool Ø: 78 mm (160 mm with free adjacent positions) • Max tool length: 380 mm • Max magazine load: 240 kg • Tool change time: ~0.9 s • Chip-to-chip time: ~2.6 s • Feed rates & dynamics: • Rapid traverse (X/Y/Z): 75 m/min • Acceleration: 0.6 – 1.2 – 1.4 g • Drives: Direct digital drives with absolute measuring system • Machine functions/utilities: • Automatic washdown of work area and fixtures • Automatic centralized grease lubrication • Hydraulic unit: 200 bar • Compressed air treatment with filtration to 0.01 µm • Cooling unit for machine components • Measuring, monitoring, software: • FANUC 3D collision control • Tool monitoring and sister tool management • Electrical & interfaces: • Ethernet RJ45, USB, PCMCIA • Remote diagnostics: CHIRON remoteLine • Data monitoring & OEE: CHIRON dataLine • Compliance: CE Additional equipment (robots, automation, peripherals) • Automation/palletizing: • Automatic pallet changer IWV 0°/180° (change time ~3.5 s) • Rotary table ATU 200, 2 units • Positioning accuracy/repeatability: ±5″ • Max clamping torque: 1,200 Nm • Max load per side (APC): 250 kg • Max weight difference between pallets: 0 kg • Coolant and chip management: • Through-spindle coolant (predisposition) • High-pressure coolant system up to 30 bar • Coolant filtration: Drum filter TPF 350 S (50 µm) • Chip conveyor: Hinged belt • Coolant tank: 230 L • Pump: 250 L/min @ 1.4 bar • Probing/tool control: • Renishaw RLP40Q probe (predisposition) • Laser tool breakage control (Single F1000)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2004, travel distance X-axis: 6,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 630 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 550 mm, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: n/a, number of axes: 4, This 3-axis CHIRON Mill 6000 SK was manufactured in 2004, featuring a high-speed motor spindle at 12,000 rpm and a travel range of X 6,000 mm, Y 630 mm, Z 550 mm. It includes a 5-axis milling package, 92 tool positions, and a Marposs collision monitoring system. Ideal for long part machining up to 6,000 mm and pendulum machining. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities consider the CHIRON Mill 6000 SK machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • 92 tool positions hsk-a63 (background magazine) • Long part machining up to a maximum of 6000 mm • Machining of the end face (5th side) horizontally with swivel head (right/left) • Pendulum machining via center partition, max. Workpiece length 1773 mm with sk machining on both end faces (tool length 120 mm) • 4 hydraulic double vices (fixed center jaw) per pendulum section, positioning, and clamping via linear system (hydraulic release, mechanical clamping) Extra Information Additional Equipment High-speed package with Motor Spindle: 12000 rpm, 140 Nm Production Package: Scraper belt conveyor, discharge height 1050 mm Internal coolant preparation KNOLL VRF250 vacuum rotary filter (suitable for steel, cast iron, aluminum, plastic, brass) High pressure 70 bar with HP pump and variable valve Flushing gun per pendulum field Emulsion mist extraction, 2 fans each 800 m²/h Rotating viewing window left and right (1400 mm from machine center) Automatic loading doors Center partition for pendulum machining 5-Axis Milling Package Air Blast Tool Life Monitoring Additional V24 RS232 in the control cabinet BDE/MDE interface (statuses: machine on, machine running, part counter) Marposs (Brankamp) CMS100 Collision Monitoring System Dksdjx Nr Irjpfx Abaon 3D machine model for kinematic simulation in the CAM programming system 210 bar hydraulic power unit, 2 clamping circuits, separate system clamping pressure for each pendulum field, clamping pressure control KOHN linear clamping system 8 KOHN Multi 2000 MFS 125/680 HD hydraulic vices Two-part operator step across the entire operating width of 6000 mm With the 3 axes x, y, z and the swivel head, the software package 5-axis milling can be used to mill shapes, e.g. a curve. The software then synchronizes the axes.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2011, operating hours: 21,578 h, number of axes: 4, This 4-axis CHIRON DZ15KWM HS was manufactured in 2011. Ideal for precision vertical machining, this model offers robust construction and reliable performance. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities, consider the CHIRON DZ15KWM HS machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Extra Information Dksdpfxjx D Nmre Abasn Machine still under power

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1989, number of axes: 2, This Schaudt Mikrosa SASL 125 was manufactured in 1989. A centerless external grinding machine, it features NC-controlled operations and hydrodynamic axis bearing. Both wheels can be dressed via a controlled axis. Refurbished by UHLMAN Werkzeugmaschinen-Service in 2021/22, it has been regularly maintained. Consider the opportunity to buy this Schaudt Mikrosa SASL 125 centerless grinding machine. Contact us for more information. Additional equipment • Optional: Additional equipment available Dsdpfsx Enapox Abaekn Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • Hydrodynamic axis bearing • Regular maintenance during series production • Refurbished by uhlman werkzeugmaschinen-service in 2021/22

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2006, travel distance X-axis: 300 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 250 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 250 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: 21i-M series, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 3,700 W, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis CHIRON FZ08W was manufactured in 2006. A vertical CNC machining center featuring a Fanuc 21i-M series control, it offers X, Y, Z travels of 300 mm, 250 mm, and 250 mm respectively. It includes a table size of 550 x 300 mm, a spindle speed of 10,000 rpm, and a 12-position tool magazine. Consider the opportunity to buy this CHIRON FZ08W vertical machining center. Contact us for more information. • Condition: Used Dsdjygl D Hspfx Abajkn • Status: Good • Table size: 550 x 300 mm • Permissible load: 200 kg • Tool magazine: 12 positions Additional equipment • Chip evacuator

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 24,209 h, travel distance X-axis: 730 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 360 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 7,500 W, number of axes: 4, This 4-axis CHIRON FZ 15 W Magnum HS vertical machining center was manufactured in 2014. Ideal for precision machining, it offers robust construction and reliability. Consider the opportunity to buy this CHIRON FZ 15 W Magnum HS vertical machining center. Contact us for more information. Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits Dodox D Nl Uspfx Abajkn • Number of tools per spindle: 48 • Tool holder: hsk-a 63 • Main spindle max. Torque: 95 nm Extra Information Machine still under power

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, travel distance X-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 550 mm, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: Sinumerik, table width: 550 mm, table length: 2,600 mm, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, number of axes: 4, This CHIRON MILL 2000 Vertical Machining Center was manufactured in the year 2003. It is equipped with a Siemens Sinumerik control unit. The machine has a spindle speed of 12000 rpm. Additional equipment • Chip conveyor Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • Rapid feed 40 m/min Djdpfxsyi Eh De Abajkn • Tool magazine with capacity for 24 tools

Condition: used, Machine has a defect in the main spindle CNC vertical machining center CHIRON type FZ 22 L high speed Machining center with CNC control FANUC Series 21-M serial no. 179-98 year of construction 1999 Travel X: 2000 mm, Y: 520 mm, Z: 630 mm Table size 2700 x 570 mm Table load 525 kg (per meter) Tool holder SK 40 (DIN 69871) Drilling capacity 35 mm Tapping capacity M27 Tool diameter 75 mm Diameter with free secondary positions 105 mm Tool change speed tool - tool 2.0 sec. Tool change speed from chip to chip 4.8 sec. Distance spindle nose - table 190 to 820 mm Spindle speed max. 10,500 rpm Main spindle drive max. 18.5 kW Mains connection 400 Volt, 50 Hz, 32 kVA - Pendulum machining over 2 work areas (partition wall missing) - CNC control FANUC Series 21-M - Tool changer 40-fold - IKZ = internal coolant supply through the spindle - Spray protection cabin with sliding door - Indirect measuring system - Coolant device with chip conveyor opposite Dodpfx Abjquhbgsaskn - Electronic handwheel Transport dimensions of the basic machine L x W x H 4600 x 2470 x 2950 mm Weight of the machine approx. 7.5 tons. Transport space requirement on the truck L x W x H 12000 x 2470 x 2950 mm Transport Weight on the truck approx. 10 ton. Weight 7.2 tons. good condition - machine has a defect on the main spindle

Year of construction: 1975, condition: good (used), 13 rolls, Ø 152 mm strip width: 500 - 2.000 mm strip thickness: max. 12 mm Dkodsg Iii Ajpfx Abajn

Condition: used, 5 axis: yes Milling and turning: yes Dksdpjgph Rnsfx Abaen 5 axis machininng center (milling/turning from bar) Under power in our warehouse MAKE CHIRON MODEL MILL 800 5 axis CNC Fanuc 18iMBS (5 simoultaneous axis 1*) X, Y, Z (mm) 800 – 500 - 550 Rapids (Highspeed) 60 m/min Swivelling head CNC controlled (B axis) +/- 100° Turning spindle Peiseler Milling spindle 12.000 giri / 140 Nm (v nota 2) Tools 65 Tool type HSK-A 63 DIN 69893 Tool-change time 1,5 sec (v nota 3) Table 1400x500 Max table load 1200 kgs Coolant through spindle 70 bar (see note 4) CNC controlled clamping/rotating unit for 6th face machining (v. nota 5) Pressurised linear encoders Swarf conveyor Renishaw-ready Y.O.M. 2006 Weight 7500 kgs Turning package Max dia 65mm RPM: 15 / 4500 Max 42,5 KW / 90 Nm. Hydraulic clamping 800 Nm. Bar loader ILS-RBK- 10012 65 Diameters min/max 5/65 mm L= 600-1200 mm Highspeed (2) 60m/min. Spindle 20-12.000 min.’ – 140 Nm.12.000 RPM 12,5 KW/Max 34kW Swivelling head (CNC controlled) ± 100° Low hours This machine can be inspected under power in our Warehouse Mimu Machine Tools (Italy)