Used 5 Axis Vertical Machining Centre for sale (100,120)

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 007289, X axis working area: 3200 mm Y axis working area: 900 mm Main Electrospindle power: 4.5 KW Number of controlled axes: 3 axes Fodpfx Alswukyqs Sjgh Total number of drilling spindles: 16

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 380 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 300 mm, controller manufacturer: Fanuc 16i-M, controller model: 16i-M, table width: 390 mm, table length: 850 mm, rotational speed (min.): 80 rpm, rotational speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 80 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, Equipment: documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, X-axis travel: 500 mm Y-axis travel: 380 mm Z-axis travel: 300 mm Table size: 850 × 390 mm Controller: Fanuc 16i-M Spindle taper: BT30 Spindle speeds: 80 - 8000 rpm Fgodpfsyw Inqex Al Soh Tool changing time: 1.0 sec. ATC: 14 pockets Including: 3x machinevices 36 Toolholders Oilfilter Filtermist S800 Machine manuals Country of origin: Japan Motor power: 3.7 kW Machine (L×W×H): 160 × 190 × 220 cm Machine weight: 1900 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 38,141 h, travel distance X-axis: 1,050 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 530 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 510 mm, controller manufacturer: Mazatrol, controller model: Smooth G, total height: 2,810 mm, total length: 3,650 mm, total width: 3,100 mm, table width: 550 mm, table length: 1,300 mm, table load: 1,200 kg, overall weight: 6,800 kg, spindle speed (min.): 12,000 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 35 rpm, operating hours of spindle: 8,074 h, coolant supply: 30 bar, number of slots in tool magazine: 30, input voltage: 19 V, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, CNC Vertical Machining Centre CNC Control: Mazatrol Smooth G Machine tablesize: 1300 x 550 mm X-axis travel: 1050 mm Y-axis travel: 530 mm Z-axis travel: 510 mm Spindle speed: 35 - 12.000 rpm Spindle: SK40/DIN 67871A Spindle motor: 18.5/11 kW Positions in tool magazine: 30 and equipped, among other things, with - Chip conveyor belt right - Cooling by the spindle 15 bar - Spindle total time 8.074 hours If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Fgsdpfezy Nxgsx Al Ssh Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, operating hours: 39,256 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 780 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 560 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, total height: 2,800 mm, total length: 7,000 mm, total width: 7,000 mm, rotational speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, overall weight: 12,000 kg, For sale is a machining center by Deckel Maho, model DMC 60 T. The machine is in good condition and ready for immediate use. Technical data: Year of manufacture: 2005 Operating hours: 39,256 Power-on hours: 72,107 X-axis travel: 780 mm Y-axis travel: 560 mm Z-axis travel: 560 mm Control: iTNC 530 Heidenhain Spindle speed range: 20 - 12,000 rpm Main spindle drive power: 28 / 19 kW Max. torque: 125 Nm Tool holder: SK 40 B-axis infinitely adjustable: 150° (-120/+30)° Number of pallets: 2 Pallet size: 630 x 500 mm Max. load: 400 kg Table speed range: max. 30 rpm Number of tool stations: 120 positions Max. tool diameter: 80 mm Max. tool diameter with adjacent pocket empty: 160 mm Max. tool length: 315 mm Max. tool weight: 8 kg Rapid traverse ( X / Y / Z ): 50 m/min Feed rate: 20 - 15,000 mm/min Total power requirement: 64.2 kVA Machine weight: approx. 12.0 t Floor space required: approx. 7.0 x 7.0 x 2.8 m Included in the offer: Documentation, chip conveyor, coolant system, high-pressure coolant 40 bar through spindle, paper band filter, 2-position pallet changer, tool breakage monitoring Fgodpfx Alewtft Ns Soh Accessories such as clamping devices or tool holders are NOT included in the offer. Transport and loading can be organised throughout Europe at additional cost upon request. Prices are subject to VAT. Inspection is possible by appointment. Please contact us; our team will be happy to assist you. Trade-in or exchange possible! Machinery purchase / sale PURCHASE / SALE OF PRODUCTION & METALWORKING MACHINES AND MUCH MORE. Do you need a high-quality yet affordable metalworking machine for your production? Or do you want to sell yours? For further information or contact options, please visit our website.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,100 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 640 mm, controller model: SIEMENS 840 D, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range, X-axis: 1,100 mm Travel range, Y-axis: 500 mm Travel range, Z-axis: 640 mm Number of pallets: 2 Table size: 2 × 1,000 × 450 mm Table load capacity: 600 kg Spindle speed range: 50–10,000 rpm Drive power: 18.5 kW Tool interface: DIN 69871 / ISO 40 Feed rate range X/Y/Z: up to 10,000 mm/min Rapid traverse rate in all axes: 30 m/min MACHINE DETAILS Fsdpfxsz Ibb To Al Segh CNC path control: SIEMENS 840 D Number of tool positions: 30 Machine dimensions & weight Machine dimensions L × W × H: approx. 3,605 × 3,041 × 3,220 mm Machine weight: approx. 6,700 kg EQUIPMENT 2-position pallet changer 30-position tool changer Internal coolant supply (ICS) Full enclosure with electrically interlocked safety doors Linear guides with double roller recirculating bearing for even absorption of high torques in all directions Ball screws in all 3 axes Machine bed made of Meehanite cast iron for high precision, rigidity, and vibration damping Swivel chip conveyor with integrated coolant system Preparation for 4th axis CE compliant

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2000, - USED - 3-AXIS VERTICAL MACHINING CENTRE WITH PALLET CHANGER X-AXIS TRAVEL: 1250 mm Y-AXIS TRAVEL: 700 mm Z-AXIS TRAVEL: 750 mm DISTANCE SPINDLE NOSE-TABLE: 100 - 850 mm RAPID FEEDS X-Y-Z: 15 m/min SPINDLE: 4000 rpm; 26 kW; ISO 50 - DIN PALLET: N.2 Fgedpfx Ajyvlxkel Seh TABLE SIZE: 650 x 1400 mm MAX ADMITTED LOAD: 1500 Kg HIGH PRESSURE COOLANT: 30 Bar TOOL MAGAZINE: CHAIN-TYPE ; 41 POS MAX TOOL DIAMETER: 120 (200) mm MAX TOOL LENGHT: 400 mm MAX TOOL WEIGHT: 20 Kg CONTROL UNIT: FANUC 16i-M WEIGHT: 16750 Kg OVERALL DIMENSIONS: 7135 x 5300 x 3426 mm ACCESSORIES: GEAR BOX ; SWARF CONVEYOR

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Table size 1600 x 750 mm, table load 1500 kgs, Traverses XYZ 1525 x 762 x 625 mm, Fodpsxwytcjfx Al Ssgh rapid feedrates 24m/min, Spindle power 18.5 Kw, spindle speed 6,000rpm, 40 station ATC, spindle taper BT50, through spindle coolant, swarf conveyor, Fanuc 21i control.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2025, operating hours: 50 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 6LUD-321, travel distance X-axis: 620 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 520 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 460 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 36 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 36 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 36 m/min, nominal power (apparent): 45 kVA, torque: 180 Nm, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: Sinumerik ONE, workpiece height (max.): 430 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 580 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 300 kg, total height: 3,300 mm, total length: 3,225 mm, total width: 2,256 mm, table load: 300 kg, rotary table diameter: 500 mm, overall weight: 8,500 kg, spindle speed (min.): 5 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, operating hours of spindle: 40 h, coolant supply: 42 bar, distance table center to spindle nose: 150 mm, spindle motor power: 3,400 W, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 60, tool length: 250 mm, tool diameter: 127 mm, tool weight: 7,000 g, coolant supply through spindle: 42 bar, swivel angle B-axis (min.): -50 °, swivel angle B-axis (max.): 110 °, swivel angle C-axis (max.): 360 °, number of axes: 5, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, Demonstration machine Axon LU 620 features: - Siemens Sinumerik ONE - 5-axis simultaneous machining - Heidenhain glass scales in all 5 axes - Kinematic Optimizer - 15,000 rpm direct drive spindle with 34 kW and max. 180 Nm (25% duty cycle) - Production Package I with 42 bar internal coolant system - Air supply through the spindle - Media supply through the center of the table - Automatic workpiece measurement system Renishaw OMP 40 - Laser tool breakage detection system Blum NT A-3 Split - Paper band filter system Fsdpfszdddgsx Al Segh - Ring flushing system on the spindle - Automatic side door - 60 magazine positions - SK40 - Drag chain chip conveyor - Chip flushing - Dust extraction system

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, AWEA FCV 620 year 2017 FANUC OiMF Manual Guide 2x Tool probe Renishaw X-axis travel: 635 mm Y-axis travel: 535 mm Z-axis travel: 460 mm B-axis rotary range: -50° ~ +110° C-axis rotary range: 360˚ Table diameter: Ø 650 mm Spindle taper: BT40 Spindle speed :Direct drive 12,000 Cooling through the spindle Spindle motor (cont./min): 11/15 kW (FANUC 12,000 rpm) Fodpfxsvy H U Ne Al Segh X / Y / Z axes rapid feed rate: 36 m/min. Tool magazine capacity: 32T Weight 8500kg

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 6,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 3,200 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,400 mm, table length: 6,000 mm, table width: 3,000 mm, spindle speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, distance between stands: 4,000 mm, Technical Specifications Fgodpfxsxlip Ao Al Soh • Table clamping area: 6,000 × 3,000 mm • X-axis (longitudinal travel): 6,000 mm • Y-axis (cross travel): 3,200 mm • Z-axis (vertical travel): 1,400 mm • Distance between columns: 4,000 mm • Feed speed: 30,000 mm/min • Table load: 4,000 kg/m² • Max. spindle speed: 24,000 rpm • Max. spindle power (S1-100%): 42 kW • Max. spindle torque (S1-100%): 67 Nm • Tool holder: HSK63A • Tool changer: 24 positions • C-axis: ±360° • A-axis: +95° / -110°

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 006639, X axis working area: 2600 mm Y axis working area: 900 mm Fsdpfx Asz N Swcel Sogh Total number of drilling spindles: 22

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, Controller FANUC MXP-200FC Table size D380 mm Table load max 200 kg X travel 700 mm Fgodor I Az Tepfx Al Sjh Y travel 520 mm Z travel 480 mm A axis +30/-120 degree C axis 0-360 degree Spindle speed 12000 rpm Tool holder type BBT40 Rapid speed 36/36/24 m/min Feedrate 1 - 100000 mm/min Max tool diameter and length D78 x 280 mm Max tool weight 6 kgs Spindle power 22,5 kW ATC magazin 30-fold Power required 46 kVA Accessories, features - CTS - integrated 4/5 axis - Coolant unit - Chip conveyor - Mist collector - external hydraulic - manuals The machine is still under power and can be inspected in function. Ready to buy.

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2003, Parts shown by hand not come. Fodpsm Dtnrjfx Al Segh Pallete changer EROWA not come.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, Working area in X – Y – Z mm: 4,200 – 2,200 – 100 • Continuous work table • Lateral and bottom reference stops • Gantry machine with Gandry system – Dual motorization • Milling unit with 4-axis electrospindle, HSD brand • Blade unit for 360° cutting via HSD electrospindle Fgodpfjz Dp Rbox Al Seh • Air cooling • ISO 30 tool holder • Inverter • 10-position tool magazine • Control system: OSAI • Software

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, travel distance X-axis: 3,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,100 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 900 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, table width: 1,700 mm, spindle speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, table load: 11,000 kg, workpiece weight (max.): 11,000 kg, rotational speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, controller model: MAX 5, coolant supply: 40 bar, We offer the following machine directly on behalf of the owner. It was delivered in 2026 but, due to changing requirements, it will not be put into operation. The machine is in its original packaging and has not been used. 5-axis CNC portal milling machine, new Manufacturer: HURCO Type: DCX 32-5 Si Year of manufacture: 2025, delivery 3/2026 Control: MAX 5, 2 screens TRAVEL RANGES X-axis: 3,200 Y-axis: 2,100 Z-axis: 900 mm B-axis: +100°/-110° C-axis: ±360° TABLE Table size: 3,000 × 1,700 Table load: 11,000 kg Distance between portal columns: 2,130 mm Distance between spindle nose and table: 66 – 966 mm SPINDLE / HEAD Swivel head CYTEC Tool holder: HSK63-A Speed max.: 18,000 rpm Power: 45/63 kW Torque max.: 106 Nm Fodpfxezu Nz Ds Al Sjgh Rapid traverse: 15/15/10 m/min Tool changer / ATC: 60-position EQUIPMENT: - Internal cooling through spindle, 40 bar - KNOLL band filter system - KNOLL chip conveyor - Direct path measuring system X/Y/Z - Workpiece probe RENISHAW RMP600 - Tool measurement: RENISHAW NC4 - Calibration sphere - Rotoclear - RITTAL spindle cooler - Enclosed protective cabin - LED work area lighting - Signal light - Coolant spray gun SOFTWARE OPTIONS: - Simultaneous 5-axis machining - Dialog / NC Mix - FANUC-compatible NC mode - Macro programming - Ulti Motion (10,000-line look-ahead) - STEP and DXF import - Automatic pocket and island detection - Multi-touch SERVICES: - Warranty extension + 12 months - Commissioning by HURCO (including in Germany) MACHINE DIMENSIONS Footprint: approx. 9,982 × 6,815 mm Height: approx. 5,250 mm Machine weight: approx. 37,700 kg (transport approx. 45 t)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, Movement Y-Axis Movement 510 mm Z-Axis Movement 580 mm This 5-axis Mazak Variaxis i-600 was manufactured in 2013. It features a Siemens 840D control system, a table size of 600mm, and a spindle speed of 18000 RPM with a power of 35 kW. The machine offers a tool capacity of 40 and has spindle run hours of 1900. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities, consider the Mazak Variaxis i-600 machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information about this machine. Fsdpjx R E Ihefx Al Segh Application Types Milling

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2000, Ref. -No.: 10468 Manufacturer: DECKEL MAHO Type: DMU 80 Year of construction: 2000 Control: Heidenhain Millplus Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Japan Machine-No.: 111xxxxx X-Travel: 800 mm Y-Travel: 700 mm Z-Travel: 600 mm Number of T-slots: 9 / 14 Clamping Area: Ø 900 x 630 mm T - slot spacing: 63 mm Tool Taper: SK 40 Tool changer: 30 Spindle Speed: 12.000 RPM Max. Torque: 2659 Nm Operating hours: 67.452 H Center hole: Ø 50 mm Holding torque: 4500 Nm Max. rotation of the table top: 10,7 rpm Feed: 3600 °/min. Resolution of the measuring system: 0,001 ° NC rotary table: 800 kg NC swivel rotary table: 600 kg Further information: - Clamping table 900 x 630 mm - Chip conveyor, sheet metal technology - Belt filter system, manufacturer Interlit - Type SK 200-760 - Oil mist separator Fgsdpfszc Dziox Al Soh - Set of tool holders, - Workbenches - 2x 6 drawers - Vise - Jaw width 125 mm - Roller shutter cabinet with 1 door The machine can be viewed under power by arrangement.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 460 mm, controller model: HEIDENHAIN ITNC 530, spindle speed (max.): 28,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Number of axes: 5 Travel range, X-axis: 450 mm Travel range, Y-axis: 650 mm Travel range, Z-axis: 460 mm Swivel angle (A-axis): -10 / +110 ° Fedpfezaqhqex Al Sjgh Tool magazine Number of positions: 60 Maximum tool diameter: 80 mm Maximum tool length: 250 mm Maximum tool weight: 6 kg Tool holder and spindle Tool holder: HSK 63 Minimum spindle speed: 2 rpm Maximum spindle speed: 28,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Operating time according to counter: 94,552 h Operating hours according to counter: 24,219 h Connection voltage: 400 V Spindle power: 38 / 28 kW Total power consumption: 70 kVA Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 3,210 x 2,930 x 2,900 mm Machine weight: approx. 9,500 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1990, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2124, travel distance X-axis: 1,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,375 mm, feed rate X-axis: 20 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 20 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 20 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, 5-axis machine Pallet size: 800 × 800 mm Automatic workpiece change: 5 pallets CNC control: FANUC 15M Spindle: 22 kW – 4000 rpm, FANUC Axis motor (20 m/min) + drive: FANUC Tool magazine: 118 tools, type 50, DIN 69871 Fsdpfx Aoyzxyxel Segh

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, travel distance X-axis: 3,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,100 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 900 mm, controller model: MAX 5, workpiece weight (max.): 11,000 kg, table width: 1,700 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, table load: 11,000 kg, rotational speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, coolant supply: 40 bar, We are offering the following machine directly on behalf of the owner. It was delivered in 2026, but due to a change in requirements, it will not be put into operation. The machine is in its original packaging and has not been used. 5-axis CNC portal milling machine, new Manufacturer: HURCO Type: DCX 32-5 Si Year of manufacture: 2025, delivery 3/2026 Control: MAX 5, 2 screens TRAVEL RANGES X-axis: 3,200 Y-axis: 2,100 Z-axis: 900 mm B-axis: +100°/-110° C-axis: ±360° TABLE Table size: 3,000 × 1,700 Table load: 11,000 kg Distance between portal columns: 2,130 mm Distance spindle nose–table: 66 – 966 mm SPINDLE / HEAD Swivel head CYTEC Tool holder: HSK63-A Speed max.: 18,000 rpm Power: 45/63 kW Torque max.: 106 Nm Rapid traverse: 15/15/10 m/min Tool changer / ATC: 60-position EQUIPMENT: - Internal cooling through spindle 40 bar - KNOLL band filter system - KNOLL chip conveyor - Direct path measuring system X/Y/Z - Workpiece probe RENISHAW RMP600 - Tool measurement: RENISHAW NC4 - Calibration sphere - Rotoclear - RITTAL spindle cooler - Enclosed protective cabin - LED work area lighting Fgsdpjzl Hbcsfx Al Soh - Signal light - Coolant spray gun SOFTWARE OPTIONS: - Simultaneous 5-axis machining - Dialog / NC Mix - FANUC-compatible NC mode - Macro programming - Ulti Motion (10,000 block look-ahead) - STEP and DXF import - Automatic pocket and island recognition - Multi-touch SERVICES: - Warranty extension + 12 months - Commissioning by HURCO (including in Germany) MACHINE DIMENSIONS Footprint: approx. 9,982 × 6,815 mm Height: approx. 5,250 mm Machine weight: approx. 37,700 kg (transport approx. 45 t)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2018, General Data Machine weight 3700 kg Fgodpfx Aex D D N Iol Seh Measurements height 2800 mm Main Drive Spindle Speed 12000 RPM Spindle motor power 22.4 kW Tool taper BT 40 Number of axis 4 Dimensions Machine Length 2700 mm Table Table load 680 kg Movement X-Axis Movement 762 mm Z-Axis Movement 508 mm Y-Axis Movement 406 mm Tools Max weight 5 kg This 4-axis HAAS VF-2SS-EU vertical machining center was manufactured in 2018. It features a 762 mm X-axis travel, 406 mm Y-axis travel, and 508 mm Z-axis travel. Equipped with a BT-40 spindle achieving up to 12,000 rpm and a side-mount tool changer with a 30 + 1 tool capacity. Rapid traverse rates reach 35.6 m/min. Consider the opportunity to buy this HAAS VF-2SS-EU vertical machining center. Contact us for more information about this machine. Application Types Milling

Year of construction: 2003, condition: used, A Deckel Maho 5-axis CNC milling machine in need of repair is offered. Travel X/Y/Z: 1080mm/710mm/710mm, NC-mounted rotary table C-axis X/Y: 800mm/620mm, swiveling milling head B-axis: 90°, max. spindle speed: 12000rpm, tool taper: SK40, tool positions: 32, control: Heidenhain iTNC 530, control-on hours: 75100h, program run hours: 24720h. Equipped with internal air blast supply, external coolant supply, Heidenhain infrared touch probe, Heidenhain electronic handwheel, Rotoclear rotating inspection window, chip conveyor, oil mist extraction system, coolant system with paper band filter, chip flushing gun, work area light and clamping support next to the mounted rotary table for longer workpieces. The milling head clamping system is leaking, but the machine is still operational. An on-site inspection is possible. Fgsdpfxjzwfq He Al Sjh

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, X-axis: 750mm, Y-axis: 600mm, Z-axis: 520mm, B-axis: 180°, C-axis: 360°, max. table load: 350kg, tool changer: 32-position, max. spindle speed: 18,000rpm, rapid traverse: 50m/min, max. feed rate: 20,000mm/min, tool holder: SK40, control: Heidenhain Mill Plus iT, spindle operating hours: 6,000h, with through-spindle coolant, chip conveyor, replacement spindle has 6,000h, X- and Y-axis guideways repaired in 2024, X-axis measuring system replaced in 2025, rotary union replaced in 2025, both chain changer motors replaced in 2025, an on-site inspection is possible. Fgsdpfez Ea Rujx Al Seh

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2018, Main Drive Spindle speed range 15000 Number of axis 3 Fgodpfxsx D I Ine Al Sjh This 3-axis Hyundai WIA KF 5600 vertical machining center was manufactured in 2018. It features a 30-position automatic tool changer, a high-speed spindle at 15,000 rpm with BBT40 taper, and advanced Siemens software options including 3D simulation and real-time machining recording. Ideal for precision machining with its equipped glass rods for accurate measurements. Consider the opportunity to buy this Hyundai WIA KF 5600 vertical machining center. Contact us for more information about this machine. Application Types Milling

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2000, 20000 rpm, Fjdpfx Alor Urm Se Segh tool measurement on table will come, Parts shown by hand not come.