Used Round Bending Machine for sale (65,404)

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2023, roller (bottom) diameter: 410 mm, roller (top) diameter: 450 mm, roller diameter: 410 mm, working width: 3,000 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 40 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 45 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 50 mm, sheet thickness brass (max.): 60 mm, sheet thickness copper (max.): 60 mm, overall weight: 23,000 kg, total length: 58,000 mm, total width: 21,000 mm, total height: 25,000 mm, power: 22.06 kW (29.99 HP), outer diameter: 520 mm, type of input current: three-phase, working length: 3,100 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, model capacity 3000x40 mm Digital readout Hydraulic 4 roll plate bending machine plate thickness rolling 40 mm pre-bend 32 mm minimum rolling diameter ID 520 mm plate max width on the rollers 3100 mm top roll size 450 mm Power on hydraulic unit 30Hp Vac 400/50 -480/60 Kedpfxoq Uk A To Addedg Installed configuration Hardened rolls Conical plate rolling with digital position bending readout Electric control joysticks roll bending Digital position readout rolling save & repeat Hydraulic rotation central rolls driven parallelism lifetime with torsion bar. ( no electronic ) Pre-pinch load adjustable for pre-bending . Drop-end top roll front open for unloading Re-rolling system for welded shells calibration. Safety and emergency stop Manuals and schematics – CE declaration of quality nr.1 Vertical Support hydraulic run 3 ton capacity to support large shell dia up to 4 meters ( see photo ) ----- Predisposed ready add-on accessories: CNC controller programmable 4 axis automatic plate roll, digital touch screen readout position of the 4 rolls for use manual-semiautomatic-fully automatic programmable with storage memory, network connect predisposed industry 4.0

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1990, machine/vehicle number: 4ROLL, roller (bottom) diameter: 470 mm, roller (top) diameter: 470 mm, side roll diameter: 420 mm, roller diameter: 470 mm, roller length: 3,050 mm, working width: 3,050 mm, working height: 1,800 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 50 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 45 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 45 mm, sheet thickness copper (max.): 45 mm, overall weight: 43,000 kg, total length: 7,700 mm, total width: 2,410 mm, total height: 2,470 mm, power: 37 kW (50.31 HP), input voltage: 380 V, type of input current: three-phase, working length: 3,050 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, emergency stop, PLATE BENDING MACHINE FACCIN - 4 ROLL HYDRAULIC 3000 X 40 MM MODEL 4HCI3-35/30 YEAR 1990 PLATE BENDING ROLL LINEAR GUIDEWAYS DOUBLE PINCH PRE-BENDING Machine in good working condition Bending capacity -Plate width : 3000 mm -Rolling plate thickness 40 mm - Prebend thickness 35 mm Rolls dimensions: -Useful length 3050 mm -central rolls upper/lower 470 mm -side rolls left/right 420 mm • Hardening of the 4 rolls high strength surface • 3 rolls driven powered with gear unit with hydraulic motor • Conical bending attachment side rolls tiltable to form cones, contrast pad roller type. • Opening front hydraulic drop-end to unload the closed shell. • Variable speed working roll bending rotation hydraulic speed fast/slow. Kjdpfjwb Scmjx Addsdg • Console electric on wheels with centralized commands joysticks and 3 digital readout. • Digital readouts of the rolls position bending and pre-bending repeatability. • Hydraulic tank capacity oil 350 liters – power electric 37 Kw voltage 380 /50 • Dimension 7700 x2410 x H 2470 mm - weight 43000kgs

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 1985, machine/vehicle number: 3ROLL 4000 X 6 MM, roller (bottom) diameter: 300 mm, roller diameter: 310 mm, roller length: 4,050 mm, working width: 4,000 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 6 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 6 mm, sheet thickness copper (max.): 6 mm, overall weight: 11,000 kg, total length: 5,700 mm, total width: 1,500 mm, total height: 1,700 mm, type of input current: three-phase, working length: 4,000 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, emergency stop, 3 ROLL PLATE BENDING MACHINE WITH PREPINCHING capacity plate roll 4000 x 6 mm Ksdpfx Aevn I Hcjddedg Plate width 4000 mm Thickness plate rolling 6 mm Pyramid 3 rolls with pre-pinch cylindrical plate rolling Conical plate rolling Rollers surface length 4050 mm Top roll 310 mm Side rolls 300 mm Datasheet power rollers rotation 15 Hp -3 rolls driven rotation with gear unit power bending- prebend side lower rollers 7,5+7,5 Hp Cene bending attachment rollers tiltable for plate conical forming - hardened contrast pad roller type Hydraulic open front drop-end , top-roll tilt-up wide opening for unloading Console electric on wheels, electric push buttons commands remote Digital readouts rollers position repetability safety and emergency installiton machine in working condition dimension 5700 x1500 x H1700 mm weight 11 Ton

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2024, Capacity plate width 3000 mm plate thickness 22 mm prebend 18 mm minimum rolling diameter ID 400 mm and above. dual initial pinch planetary technical data: -length of rolls 3100 mm -top roll dia. 350mm -lower roll dia. 330mm -Hydraulic power unit with 20Hp motor -Electric supply Vac 400/50 – 480/60 Configuration complete: -Hardened surface of the 4 rolls -Conical plate bend hydraulic attachment. -driven rolls rotation powered with gear unit axial hydromotor -Synchronized hydraulic power dragging . -front open drop-end to remove closed shells. -Calibration re-rolling feature for welded shells Safety configuration in compliance. Control console electric commands with digital readout ----- Predisposed ready add-on accessories: -NC controller programmable 4 axis automatic plate roll, digital 7" touch screen readout position of the 4 rolls for use manual-semiautomatic-fully automatic programmable with storage memory, network connect predisposed industry 4.0 -nr. 1 central hydraulic support for large diameters up to 4 mtrs ID -nr. 1 side arm hydraulic to hold in place the plate sheet being formed Kjdpfx Adjid Al Nsdedg

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2015, machine/vehicle number: AK316, roller (bottom) diameter: 270 mm, roller (top) diameter: 300 mm, roller diameter: 350 mm, roller length: 3,100 mm, working width: 3,000 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 20 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 16 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 16 mm, sheet thickness copper (max.): 16 mm, overall weight: 8,000 kg, total length: 4,500 mm, total width: 1,300 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, type of input current: three-phase, working length: 3,100 mm, Equipment: documentation/manual, emergency stop, 3roll 3000x16 mm MG MODEL AK316 plate bending machine Surface width 3100 mm -Top roll 300 mm -Side rolls 270 mm -Power electric 10 Hp -Weight 8 ton Capacity -plate width 3000 mm -plate thickness 16 mm -pre-bend 12 mm Kjdpfxov Agkps Addodg Rolling diameter from 350 mm and above Configuration complete for use: -the 3 rolls hardened high surface strength -the 3 rolls driven hydraulic with axial planetary gear individual each roll synchronized rolling speed hydraulic automatic balance -conical bending attachment for cone bending -re-rolling system for seam welded shells -console centralized with hydraulic commands -Digital position readout to repeat bending with accuracy -Safety installations with emergency stop. -Manuals of instruction DIMENSION 4500X1300XH1500 MM Machine in very good conditions

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, roller (bottom) diameter: 195 mm, roller (top) diameter: 215 mm, working width: 2,050 mm, overall weight: 3,000 kg, total length: 3,700 mm, total width: 1,000 mm, total height: 1,100 mm, power: 7.35 kW (9.99 HP), type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: emergency stop, Rolling capacity 5xD=13 mm Prebend capacity 5xD=9 mm Prebend capacity 1,3xD=7 mm Kdodpfsvl Iaqsx Addeg

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2022, roller (bottom) diameter: 210 mm, roller (top) diameter: 230 mm, side roll diameter: 190 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 10 mm, overall weight: 5,560 kg, total length: 4,642 mm, total width: 1,390 mm, total height: 1,300 mm, power: 7.5 kW (10.20 HP), working length: 2,600 mm, Overview: Akyapak's AHS series, AHS 25/08-10 model, which is among the 4-cylinder hydraulic cylinder bending machines, has the capacity to bend sheet thicknesses from 2 mm to 200 mm and sheet widths from 500 mm to 12,000 mm with high quality and precision. Kdsdpfx Adev Hcvisdsg Technical Specifications: Bending Capacity: Sheet thicknesses from 2 mm to 200 mm and sheet widths from 500 mm to 12,000 mm. Body Structure: Welded steel (St-52) construction. Roll Shaft and Bearings: Manufactured from high quality materials and resistant to high bending moment. Drive System: Upper and lower rolls are driven independently by hydraulic motor and planetary reducer. Side rolls are idle. Control System: NC and CNC options are available. Energy Efficiency: Provides optimized energy efficiency with the butterfly (action arm) system. Features: Robust Body: Long-lasting and durable structure with welded steel construction. Advanced Software: Advanced software features that facilitate large-scale production. Easy Use: Hydraulically opened and closed upper roll cover and cone opening/closing operations from the control panel. Certificates: Production quality registered with CE, ISO 9001-2008, TSEK and TURQUM.

Condition: used, total length: 1,330 mm, total width: 1,040 mm, total height: 1,150 mm, Empty weight: 1.800 kg Price: On request - Documentation available: No - CE certificate present: No - Drive system: Conventional - Shaft diameter [mm]: 85 - Capacity diameter round [mm]: 60 - Transport dimensions: 1330mm x 1040mm x 1150mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 1800kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Ksdpfoxuf Sljx Addsdg Lukas van Rossum

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, throat depth: 400 mm, warranty duration: 24 months, Model: GB-4016E Bending pressure (KN): 400 Bending length (mm): 1600 Kdjdpfjwzqx Hex Addsg Distance between columns (mm): 1320 Maximum opening height (mm): 430 Slider stroke (mm): 180 Throat depth (mm): 400 X-axis stroke (mm): 400 X-axis speed (mm/s): 400 R-axis stroke (mm): 140 R-axis speed (mm/s): 200 Z-axis stroke (mm): 1040 Z-axis speed (mm/s): 400 Machine power (kw): 17.2 Dimensions (mm): 2090*1265*2290 Weight (kg): 3500

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2011, operating hours: 34,797 h, machine/vehicle number: 2011-0250, pipe diameter (max.): 600 mm, pipe length (max.): 1,500 mm, bending angle (max.): 180 °, bending radius (max.): 200 mm, wall thickness: 3 mm, Original machine year: 1996. In 2011, fully overhauled by the manufacturer for approx. EUR 250,000: electrical and mechanical components extensively renewed. TECHNICAL DETAILS Tube diameter: 16 – 60 mm Wall thickness: max. 3.0 mm Bending radius: 20 – 200 mm Tube feed length: 1,500 mm Kdedpfxex Srklj Addsg Bending angle: max. 180° + spring-back Tube length: 400 – 1,500 mm Tube outside diameter: 28 mm – 60 mm Material specifications Tensile strength stainless steel: max. 750 N/mm² Tensile strength mild steel: max. 450 N/mm² Capacity (steel): Ø 60 x 3 mm Capacity (stainless steel): Ø 57 x 2 mm Axes/Movements Bending direction: left Bending speed (forward): max. 22.0 rpm (infinitely variable) Bending speed (return): constant 22.0 rpm Rotational positioning: max. 360° Rotational speed: 50 rpm Multi-radius height adjustment: lowest tube center 55 mm Height travel: suitable for 3-groove bending tools MACHINE DETAILS Overrun time: 125 ms Machine weight: approx. 8.0 t Machine dimensions (L × W × H): 6,300 × 3,300 × 1,900 mm Control cabinet (L × W × H): 2,700 × 700 × 2,000 mm Control console (L × W × H): 900 × 600 × 1,850 mm Tube magazine (L × W × H): 1,800 × 2,400 × 1,750 mm Operating hours: approx. 34,797 h Performance data Total power requirement: 55 kW Hydraulic oil volume: 340 l Control Bending planes: up to 6 (CNC programmable) Positioning device: NTB configuration Control unit: Schwarze-Robitec operation and control console FEATURES - Automatic cold tube bending machine - Tube positioning device - Gripper - Schwarze-Robitec tube magazine - Hydraulic operation for bending table, tool clamping, sliding rail, mandrel retraction, reinforced sliding rail feed and retraction - Various bending tools for Ø 60 mm tubes - Various accessories - Control cabinet cooling unit - Dual foot switch - Schwarze-Robitec control console - Rittal control cabinet cooling unit, type SK 3361100 Note: Machine could only be tested in setup mode due to lack of operating know-how. No faults are known. The machine is currently disassembled.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: HB10011N2025006, table width: 550 mm, table length: 300 mm, stroke length: 180 mm, pressing force: 28 t, empty load weight: 800 kg, Unused band bending machine, year of manufacture 2025! TECHNICAL DETAILS Kdodpfsx Tp E Aex Addog Capacity: 28 t Max. stroke: 180 mm Table width: 550 mm Table length: 300 mm MACHINE DETAILS Motor power: 4.0 kW Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 1,300 x 800 x 1,400 mm Net weight: 800 kg Transport packages: 1 piece Operating hours: 0 EQUIPMENT Documentation CE marking CE certificate

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2006, Ercolina CML TB-76 Pipe Bender Excellent condition Year 2006 Foot Pedal Weight 193kg Power supply - 415v/3 phase Kodpfx Adju H Ibnodedg

Condition: ready for operation (used), total length: 5,500 mm, total width: 1,400 mm, total height: 1,000 mm, empty load weight: 600 kg, Buisbuigmachine voor buis: dia 6 48 mm voor volledig materiaal: max 30 mm met gereedschap voor buisdiameter 21,3 / 26,9 / 33,7 / 42,4 / 48,3 mm Max dia tube x thickness: Ø 6 > 48 mm (45 kg / mm²) Kdsdpfx Asxcqi Eoddeg Max bendingradius: 180°

Condition: ready for operation (used), empty load weight: 1,000 kg, cap: 50 x 2 x 2,5 mm length: 6000 mm Kdedjyac U Njpfx Addog

Condition: new, The Hydraulic Tube Bender 1/2 is a compact and mobile Tube Bending Machine designed for bending steel tubes of larger diameters with a powerful manual hydraulic pump. This machine boasts a capacity of 10 tons and comes complete with dies for commonly used tube dimensions, allowing you to create bends of up to 90 degrees. With its robust 3-leg stand and 6 bending segments, it ensures stability and ease of use during operation. The included attachments cater to various diameters, making this versatile tool ideal for your tube and profile processing needs. You can efficiently bend tubes while enjoying the benefits of its portable design. If you require a reliable Tube Bending Machine, consider the Hydraulic Tube Bender 1/2 from KNUTH to enhance your workshop capabilities. Don't hesitate to request a quote today! Kdodpfxjuzlh Is Addog

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2018, sheet width 1040 mm plate thickness 3.00 mm ST Ksdsx U Emfjpfx Addjdg diameter of upper rolls 100 mm side roll diameter 100 mm diameter of lower rolls 100 mm speed 6.0 m/min semi-automatic operated FM 2.1R voltage 400 V total power requirement 2.2 kW weight of the machine ca. 740 kg range L-W-H 2250 x 825 x 1910 mm Very well-kept condition (almost as good as new)! current new price including accessories ~ 28.000 Euro special price on request Start and finish rounding is very easy with this machine thanks to the special concept, the extensive accessories and the robust construction. Machine for for one-off production and series production = extremely universal and economical. Equipment: - Robust electro-mechanical three-roll round bending machine - Driven by spur gear brake motor Primary reduction gear - Top roller Side roller electrically driven - Asymmetrical roll arrangement - Manual bottom roll adjustment * with analog position indicator - FASTI control unit "FM 2.1R" * Setting max./min. max./min. travel value side roller - Swing-out top roller, with hinged bearing - Conical bending device - 1x freely movable double foot switch * Right / left rotation of the rollers - Electrical safety device (cable) - original operating instructions

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2023, tube diameter 42.0 x 3.0 STAHL mm Kdjdex U El Ispfx Addsg tube diameter 30.0 x 2.0 EDELST mm bending angle max. 180 ° bending radius max. 100 mm bending speed 2.0 U/min. Control NC voltage 400 V total power requirement 0.55 kW weight of the machine ca. 115 kg Current new price approx. 4.200 Euro Very good condition / with machine base Description: - NC electro-motor tube bending machine - mandrelless * up to 50 programs can be stored - Automatically returns to the starting position - Maximum bending capacity for 42 x 3.0 mm steel tubes - Excellent bending quality with very tight bending radii (from 2x tube diameter) . and bending angles between 0° and 180° - Easy operation - High accuracy and reliability - Quick tool change (within seconds) - Easy to transport - Includes machine base

Condition: new, pressure 20 t stroke max. 200 mm bending capacity max. - flat 200 x 10 mm working feed 10 mm/sec Control NC Height of Toolings 150 mm total power requirement 2,2 kW weight of the machine ca. 640 kg required space 600 x 1100 x 1220 mm The Gerd Wolff HP 20 is a hydraulic horizontal press machine with many many possible combinations. Whether it is the bending of tubes, the punching of profiles or the cutting of sheet metal - with the right accessories, the HP 20 is a multifunctional machine among the presses. Standard accessories Kdodpfx Adetq Du Rodsg - ergonomic tool clamping table - easy tool change - hydraulic speed and pressure adjustment - easily adjustable back gauge - induction hardened support pins - NC control Highlights - control panel with digital display - Easy tool change - hardened support pins - hydraulic speed regulation The HP 20 is manufactured for our sales brand "GERD WOLLF Maschinenfabrik", by a renowned manufacturer from Türkiye.

Condition: new, angle steel/side length / mm double T-iron on the x-axis / mm U-iron on the x-axis / mm total power requirement / kW weight of the machine ca. 1000 kg required space 1200 850 x 1200 mm The Gerd Wolff HPK-80 is a hydraulic profile and tube bending machine with 3 rollers. The machine is ideal for bending profiles, tubes and similar material. Model: HPK 65 Upper shaft diameter: Ø 60 mm Bottom shaft diameter: Ø 50 mm Roll diameter: Ø 180 mm Working speed: 6 m/min Motor power: 3.75 kW / 380 V Dimensions (L x W x H): 1200 x 850 x 1200 mm Weight: 1000 kg Standard Accessories: Steel construction welded frame Kdedpfx Aow Nbmpsddog 3 rolls are powered Hardened and ground shafts made of high tensile special steel Horizontal and vertical working position Hardened standard rolls Mobile control panel 3-axis mechanical lateral angle guide rolls Brake motor equipped for precision bending Digital read-outs (2 pcs) Optional Equipment: NC control Hydraulic lateral guide rollers (2-axis) Spiral bending crane Special profile rolls

Condition: new, pressure 40 t stroke max. 300 mm bending capacity max. - flat 250 x 16 mm working feed 10 mm/sec Control NC Height of Toolings 250 mm total power requirement 4 kW weight of the machine ca. 1190 kg required space 650 x 1250 x 1300 mm The Gerd Wolff HP 40 is a hydraulic horizontal press machine with many many possible combinations. Whether it is the bending of tubes, the punching of profiles or the cutting of sheet metal - with the right accessories, the HP 40 is a multifunctional machine among the presses. Standard accessories - ergonomic tool clamping table - easy tool change - hydraulic speed and pressure adjustment - easily adjustable back gauge - induction hardened support pins - NC control Highlights - control panel with digital display - Easy tool change - hardened support pins - hydraulic speed regulation Kodpfxeuddfbs Addedg The HP 40 is manufactured for our sales brand "GERD WOLLF Maschinenfabrik", by a renowned manufacturer from Türkiye. The pictures are for orientation only and are not true-to-scale representations of the machine.

Condition: new, pressure 10 t stroke max. 200 mm bending capacity max. - flat 150 x 6 mm working feed 10 mm/sec Control NC Height of Toolings 150 mm total power requirement 1,1 kW weight of the machine ca. 400 kg required space 500 x 900 x 1150 mm The Gerd Wolff HP 10 is a hydraulic horizontal press machine with many many possible combinations. Whether it's bending tubes, punching profiles or cutting sheet metal, with the right accessories the HP 10 is a multifunctional machine among presses. Standard accessories - ergonomic tool clamping table - easy tool change - hydraulic speed and pressure adjustment - easily adjustable back gauge - induction hardened support pins - NC control Highlights Kjdpeuddi Hofx Addsdg - control panel with digital display - Easy tool change - hardened support pins - hydraulic speed regulation The HP 10 is manufactured for our sales brand "GERD WOLLF Maschinenfabrik", by a renowned manufacturer from Türkiye. The pictures are for orientation only and are not true-to-scale representations of the machine.

Condition: new, pressure 60 t stroke max. 300 mm bending capacity max. - flat 300 x 16 mm working feed 10 mm/sec Control NC Height of Toolings 300 mm total power requirement 5,5 kW weight of the machine ca. 1530 kg The Gerd Wolff HP 60 is a hydraulic horizontal press machine with many many possible combinations. Whether it is the bending of tubes, the punching of profiles or the cutting of sheet metal - with the right accessories, the HP 60 is a multifunctional machine among all presses. Standard accessories - ergonomic tool clamping table - easy tool change - hydraulic speed and pressure adjustment - easily adjustable back gauge - induction hardened support pins - NC control Kjdpfsxfb Iksx Addsdg Highlights - control panel with digital display - Easy tool change - hardened support pins - hydraulic speed regulation The HP 60 is manufactured for our sales brand "GERD WOLLF Maschinenfabrik", by a renowned manufacturer from Türkiye. The pictures are for orientation only and are not true-to-scale representations of the machine.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1987, pressure / t stroke / mm table-size / mm weight of the machine ca. 65000 kg Make: Shepherd Type: SVRM 4-roller bending machine: Kjdpfx Adeuddcaedodg Year of construction: 1986 Working width: 3000cm Smallest pipe diameter with 600 mm roller: Ø 720 mm Smallest tube diameter with 360 mm roller: Ø 460 mm Sheet thickness up to (depending on the material): 50 mm Material SA- 738 B Working width: 2500 mm Material SA- 738 B Material thickness: 35 mm conical bending: Except for the top roller, all rollers can be moved in an inclined position for conical bending. The roller positions can be read on display instruments. For semi-automatic or fully automatic operation of the machine, the bearing jewels of the rollers are equipped with scale bars and slide cams for limit switch actuation. This allows the rollers to return to the same set position over and over again, giving a very high level of uniformity in the shot wefts being bent.

Condition: new, tube diameter 60.3 x 4.5 mm ST tube diameter 60.3 x 5.4 mm ALU tube diameter 2" x 3.91 mm GAS bar material - diameter 35.0 mm revolutions per minute 2.0 U/min bending radius min. 10.0 mm bending radius max. 270 mm external diameter min. 5.0 mm external diameter min. 1/8 Zoll voltage 230 V total power requirement 1.5 kW weight 76.0 kg Kdodpfx Asx Urtljddeg range L-W-H 302 x 243 x 674 mm Equipment: - mandrel-less tube bending machine - Model "M" = ELECTRO-HYDRAULIC SINGLE-PHASE - high performance and compact design - completely hydraulic machine - bends 210° without the need to catch up - no electronic control - Ercolina patent n. 102017000142179 - control of the bending angle via adjustable angle scale - mobile machine base BENDING SEGMENT AVAILABLE AT AN EXTRA CHARGE

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1984, ja Ksdpfx Asx U A Sfsddodg positioning automatic ja documentation ja ja