Used Manual Crimping Machine for sale (72,956)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 13,270 h, laser type: fiber laser, laser power: 4,000 W, sheet thickness (max.): 20 mm, overall weight: 9,700 kg, year of last overhaul: 2025, The system must be dismantled between November 20, 2026, and November 22, 2026! TECHNICAL DETAILS Laser type: Fiber laser Laser power: 4,000 W Sheet metal thickness (max.): 20 mm Sheet metal thickness steel (max.): 20 mm Sheet metal thickness stainless steel (max.): 20 mm Sheet metal thickness aluminum (max.): 20 mm MACHINE DETAILS Control type: CNC control Automation level: Automatic Actuation type: Electric Power: 4 kW (5.44 hp) Input voltage: 400 V Input frequency: 50 Hz Type of cooling: Water Compressed air connection: 7 bar Laser operating hours: 13,270 h Year of last overhaul: 2025 Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 9,310 x 7,813 x 2,300 mm Total weight: 9,700 kg EQUIPMENT CE marking Central lubrication system Cooling unit Documentation/Manual Dust extraction Emergency stop switch Isdpfx Aoz I S Uwjm Doih Fume extraction Safety light curtain

Condition: good (used), EKH-455 Shrink Wrapping machine Machine ready to use. Photos show the actual product. Description: Isdpfsz R Iqusx Am Djih The main advantages of shrink wrappers include simultaneous sealing and shrinking, small dimensions, and easy portability. They are an ideal solution for shops, bakeries, warehouses, archives, bookstores, etc. They offer adjustable sealing time and heater temperature, and can also shrink PVC and polyolefin films. Technical Specifications: Power Supply: 230 V Power: 3.77 kW Maximum Product Dimensions: 520 x 390 x 250 mm Sealer Dimensions: 550 x 420 mm Weight: 125 kg

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 296 h, control type: CNC control, The Jinan Bodor P3T series is one of the manufacturer's most sought-after, fully enclosed industrial workhorses equipped with an automatic pallet changer. In addition to sheet metal processing, this machine is also designed for the precision cutting of tubes and profiles (T-version), allowing the entire production range to be covered with a single system.Dual Function: Flatbed sheet metal cutting and automatic tube cutting module in a single system. Maximum Safety: Fully enclosed protective cabin with laser safety glass for the complete protection of operators and the environment.Minimal Downtime: Automatic pallet changer system that enables loading and unloading during the cutting process.Outstanding Dynamics: High positioning speed and acceleration for maximum productivity.Intelligent Control: Bodor PRO. Technical Specifications: - Laser Source Power: 3000 W (3 kW) - Sheet Dimensions (X x Y): 3000 mm x 1500 mm - Tube Length Capacity: 6000 mm (6U execution) - Chuckable Tube Diameter: Ø20 mm – Ø170 mm (and corresponding square and rectangular profiles) - Chuck System: Automatic pneumatic / electric self-centering chucks - Control Software: Bodor PROPositioning - Accuracy: ±0.03 mm - Cuttable Materials and Guideline - Maximum Thicknesses (3 kW): Carbon Steel / Mild Steel: max. 20 mm Stainless Steel: max. 10 mm Aluminum: max. 10 mm Brass / Copper: max. 6 mm Accessories and Scope of Delivery: - Factory industrial water chiller unit - Automatic voltage regulator / stabilizer - Extraction and dust filtration system - Automatic nozzle cleaner - Complete documentation and software licenses Iodpfeznwu Sjx Am Deih Condition and Inspection: - The machine has been continuously maintained and has a service history fully supervised by a specialized technician. It is currently in live production and can be inspected and tested under operating conditions by prior appointment. Subject to prior sale. Under power in Hungary.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2021, turning diameter over bed 0800 mm turning diameter over slide rest 500 mm turning length 4000 mm spindle bore 105 mm spindle turning speed range 5,4 - 720 U/min Isdpfx Asy Nd Sism Djih workpiece weight 2500 kg bed width 600 mm spindle bore 105 mm longitudinal feeds: 0,05- 24,3 mm/U cross feed 0,05 - 12,15 mm/U rapid traverse 4 m/min main drive 11 kW total power requirement 14 kW weight of the machine ca. 8 t dimensions of the machine ca. 6,5 x 2,5 x 2 m With 4 position tool holder, face plate with safety cover, steady rest and DRO.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2021, operating hours: 2,300 h, machine/vehicle number: 921R50022874, control type: CNC control, degree of automation: automatic, laser type: fiber laser, laser source manufacturer: MAX photonics, laser power: 2,000 W, pipe diameter (max.): 200 mm, pipe length (max.): 6,000 mm, working length: 6,000 mm, travel distance X-axis: 6,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 360 mm, feed rate X-axis: 120 m/min, cutting speed: 1,600 mm/min, positioning speed: 120 m/min, positioning accuracy: 0.03 mm, repeat accuracy: 0.03 mm, input voltage: 380 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, type of cooling: water, overall weight: 14,700 kg, total length: 12,500 mm, total width: 4,700 mm, total height: 2,600 mm, tube wall thickness (max.): 6 mm, Equipment: cooling unit, emergency stop, fume extraction, safety light barrier, Laser machine for sale, in very good condition. It has a new laser source that is only a few months old. The machine has few operating hours and has been regularly maintained and is in daily use. It is possible to inspect and test the machine immediately upon arrangement. NOTE: Capable of cutting round, square, rectangular, oval, D-shaped, and U-shaped tubes. Iijdpjzg D I Asfx Am Deh

Condition: good (used), Hang 114-30/4 Paper Drill Machine The unit is in perfect condition and 100% functional. Iiodpfxsz S Un As Am Dsh A top-tier machine in the category of paper drills. This is a currently manufactured model, featuring the most comprehensive equipment configuration available. Equipped with two integrated frequency converters (inverters) for stepless spindle speed adjustment (260 – 1,800 rpm) and smooth table elevation. Rapid drill zeroing/alignment system. The drilling table is adjustable in all planes; the margin (backgauge) setting is controlled via dial indicators. Waste material is directed into an external container. Operated via an electric foot switch. Energy-saving standby mode. Automatic drive belt tensioning. Each drilling head features independent adjustment, allowing for the use of drills of varying lengths. Includes a cooling and lubrication system for the drills. Technical specifications: Number of drilling heads: 4 Drill diameter: 3–10 mm Stack height: 65 mm Drill spacing: min. 36 mm / max. 260 mm Table dimensions: 600 x 480 mm Power supply: 400 V Weight: 400 kg The machine comes with documentation, maintenance tools, and drill bits.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2004, operating hours: 19,357 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,600 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, controller model: Siemens Sinumerik 810D, spindle speed (max.): 9,000 rpm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Number of axes: 4 Travel in X-axis: 1,600 mm Travel in Y-axis: 400 mm Travel in Z-axis: 400 mm A-axis: 360° × 0.001° A-axis speed: 20 rpm Spindle speed: 0–9,000 rpm Speed control: stepless Tool interface: DIN 69871 SK40 Working feed rate: 5–28,000 mm/min Rapid traverse rate X/Y/Z-axis: 28,000 mm/min Table design: Bridge table with 4 sides Table length: 1,800 mm Table width: 113 mm Table load capacity: approx. 150 kg Magazine design: Chain magazine Magazine capacity: 44 Max. tool diameter: approx. 70 mm Max. tool diameter with free adjacent positions: approx. 200 mm Max. tool length: approx. 240 mm Iedpfx Amez Izdhj Doih Max. tool weight: 5 kg Max. total weight of tool magazine: approx. 200 kg Tool change time: approx. 8 s MACHINE DETAILS Control system: Siemens Sinumerik 810D Total power consumption: 14 kW Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W): approx. 6,500 x 3,500 mm Machine weight: approx. 9,000 kg Operating hours: 19,357 h EQUIPMENT Second milling spindle Exchangeable milling spindle Coolant system (coolant tank: approx. 480 l) Internal cooling External cooling Clefil RBF-E100 unit (coolant pressure: 20 bar) Clamping system Hydraulic clamping options in the machining area Pneumatic clamping options in the machining area Römheld hydraulic unit (max. hydraulic pressure: 500 bar) Additional equipment Chip conveyor Coolant nozzle in the machining area Enclosed work area enclosure according to UVV Automatic measuring probe RWP20.00 Various SK40 tool interfaces Technical documentation Layout plan

Condition: new, Shaft diameter: 50roll diameter: 155working speed: 4,5motor power: 1,5length: 750width: 1000heigth: 1400weight approx.: 400 Technical specifications: - Steel frame - Two rolls direct driven by a gear system - Rolls are hardened - Rolls shafts are special steel material hardened and ground - Roll shafts housed by bearings - Standard rolls Ijdpfx Amjd Eqqwj Dsih - Guide rolls - Horizontal and vertical working position Options: - Digital Readout EURO 600,-- - Angle Lateral Guide Rolls EURO 900,-- - Double Speed Working   EURO 600,--                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   PK 35 file TypeSizeMin. DiaNotes160x10         40x10500         400Standard Rolls2100x15         60x10450         350Standard Rolls335x35         20x20900         300Standard Rolls4Ø 35         Ø 30600         400Optional Rolls5Ø 70x2         Ø 30x21000         500Optional Rolls62”x2,9         1”x2,31000         350Optional Rolls7 70x30x2         50x40x31200         1200Optional Rolls8 50x3         40x31700         600Optional Rolls9 50x50x5         40x40x5800         600Optional Rolls1050x50x6         30x30x31000         500Optional Rolls1160x7         30x4 700         400Standard Rolls1260x7         30x4800         500Standard Rolls1360x7         30x4 700         500 Standard Rolls14UPN 80         UPN 301000         500Optional Rolls*15UPN 80         UPN 301200         800Standard Rolls*         * Special washer (spacer) can be necessary / Only with special Beam Bending Attachment         •Capacities are given for 260 N/mm² plate yielding strength          

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, 2008 DMG Sauer Lasertec 80 Fine Cutting Laser Processing Cell with Fanuc Robot M16IB 20 Handling System & DMG Siemens 840D Powerline CNC Control Cell Comprising Load/Unload Palletised Loading Robot. Chiller, Dust Extractor, Filtration & Rofin Cutting Laser System. Details: Sauer Lasertec 80 Laser Cutting Machine. Axis Travel: 'X' Travel Approx 800mm, 'Y' Travel Approx 500mm, 'Z' Travel Approx 700mm. Maximum Working Width Approx 500mm, Max Cutting length Approx 800mm. Fanuc 6-Axis Modular Robot M-16IB 20, 20kg Pay Load with Stand Alone R-30IA Control. Robot Arm Reach Approx 1,600mm. Rofin DC 015 Cutting Laser System with Stand Alone Control 4763 4763 (2008). KKT Kraus Stand Alone Chiller System KLC19 N-L (2011). Rittal Top Therm SK 3304100 Cooling Unit. Keller Dust Extraction Stand Alone Unit with Aktor-Sensor Bus-System Digital Control. Floor Space Required for Full Cell Approx 7,300mm x 5,000mm. Weight of Laser Processing Machine Approx 5,700kg. 3 Phase Power Supply, 415 Volt.Viewing Recommended. Iijdpoz E Sabofx Am Djh

Condition: good (used), EBA 551-06 Paper Cutting Machine The machine is in very good condition. A high-performance, precise hydraulic cutter – for small and medium-sized printing houses, bookbinding shops, and digital printers. Equipped with programmable controls, it is designed for low-volume, frequently changing orders. Control: Program storage capability Data entry via a decimal keypad Electronic digital display with 1/10 mm accuracy Electronic handwheel with stepless rear stop speed adjustment Machine diagnostics with on-screen error indicator Program start with the „start” button MM/INCH switching Hydraulic knife and pressure beam drive Photocells Cutting line Side tables Foot pedal for pressure adjustment Safety guards on the rear table Technical data: Cutting length: 550 mm Infeed depth: 570 mm Stack height: 95 mm Front table depth: 460 mm Minimum final offcut: 32 mm Power supply: 230 V / 50 Hz Power: 1.5 kW Weight: 350 kg The set includes: spare knife, cutting stick, operating tools, instructions. Iijdjz Rk Nmspfx Am Deh

Condition: good (used), Schmedt PraLeg XL 18-60 Case in machine + Schmedt PraForm 21-50 Press Manufactured in 2022. Schmedt PraLeg XL 18-60 Book Hanger Machine in good condition, ready to operate. The machine hangs a book block into a prepared hardcover. Two gluers, smooth glue thickness adjustment. Format: Block height: 80 – 450 mm Block width: 110 – 450 mm Block thickness: 2 – 80 mm Production rate: approx. 200 – 300 pcs/h Power supply: 230V Weight: 300 kg Made in Germany. Schmedt PraForm 21-50 Book Press Iijdpfsz Rk N Tex Am Deh Book press with groove cutter. Made in Schmedt, Germany. The machine is in very good condition, ready for production. Technical specifications: Maximum format: 420 x 520 x 100 mm Weight: 220 kg Power supply: 230 V + compressed air. Price is for a set of two machines.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, operating hours: 1,800 h, FEELER VMP-1100 CNC Vertical Machining Centre with NIKKEN CNC202 FA 4th Axis Year 2012 Control FANUC 0i-MD Table size 600 x 1200 mm Travels XYZ 1100 x 610 x 600 mm Spindle nose to table 137 - 735 mm Spindle centre to column 660 mm Isdpez R Tn Hofx Am Deih Spindle speeds to 10000 rpm Spindle taper BT 40 Spindle motor 18.5 kW Number of tools 30 ATC Rapid traverse X & Y 36 m/min, Z 24 m/min Weight 6800 kg Supplied with: BLUM Tool Probe, Swarf Augers, Rear Swarf Conveyor, Spindle Chiller, Filtermist FX5002, Tooling Package. NIKKEN CNC202 FA 4th Axis complete with 200 mm Diameter Faceplate, 135 mm Centre Height, 115 mm Riser Block, Tailstock and Mounting Sub Plate/Table. For sale with Jet Machinery Ltd Jet Machinery Stock No: #27003 Machine Serial Number: VNJ1074 Cost: £34,950.00 + VAT

Condition: new, bending length: 1050sheet thickness: 1upper roll diameter: 56 Technical specifications: - Cast iron body - By manuel or motorised (optional) bending - Opening top roll to side after bending for taking out the material easily - Cone bending device - Movement of the back and bottom rolls up and down manually with hand wheel - Portable control panel in order to control material from required  locations with foot pedal  - In acccordance with CE norms. Options: - Back roll with motor  Iisded Ab Uxepfx Am Dsh - Digital readout for displaying position of the backroll - Body cover - Hardened rolls EURO 336,-- We have many references!

Condition: ready for operation (used), travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 550 mm, spindle speed (max.): 2,066 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 30 rpm, Huron MU6 Universal Milling Machine Model: MU6 Table Size: 2000 x 460mm ‘X’ Longitudinal Travel: 1500mm ‘Y’ Cross Travel: 700mm ‘Z’ Vertical Travel: 550mm Spindle Speeds: 30 – 2066 RPM Iiedpfx Amjz S Nkro Djh Spindle Taper: 50 INT Machine with: Digital Readout

Year of construction: 2024, condition: new, We are offering this new Machine Wala Enterprise MSA-2 double-die semi-automatic paper plate making machine, manufactured in 2024. Isdpfx Aoz E Damem Deih Manufacturer: Machine Wala Enterprise Model: MSA-2 Year of Manufacture: 2024 Condition: New Category ID: 691 Type: Double-die semi-automatic paper plate making machine If you have any questions or require further information, please send us a message or call us.

Condition: new, Shaft diameter: 30Upper Roll Diameter: 148Bottom Roll Diameter: 118working speed: 2-4motor power: 0,7 - 0,85length: 600width: 800weight approx.: 220heigth: 1450 Technical specifications: - Steel frame - Two bottom rolls are powered - Direct drive power system with gears - Top roll is idle ( free turning ) - Hardened rolls - Rolls shafts are special steel material hardened and ground - Double speed motor - Standard rolls Isdpfx Aed Eqqzem Dsih - Adjustable guide rolls - Horizontal and vertical working position Options: - Digital Readout EURO 600,-- - Angle Lateral Guide Rolls EURO 900,-- - Double Speed Working STANDARD - Brake Motor Option EURO 150,--                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PK 30 file TypeSizeMin. DiaNotes150x10        20x61800        300Standard Rolls280x15        30x6700        400Standard Rolls330x30        10x10900        200Standard Rolls4Ø 30        Ø 10900        200Optional Rolls5Ø 60x1,5        Ø 25x1,51000        600Optional Rolls61 1/2”x2,9        1/4”x1,8600        300Optional Rolls750x30x3        40x20x21200        800Optional Rolls840x3        30x21200        800Optional Rolls940x40x5        30x30x4600        300Optional Rolls1035x35x5        30x30x4600        400Optional Rolls1150x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls1250x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls1350x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls         * Special washer (spacer) can be necessary / Only with special Beam Bending Attachment        •Capacities are given for 260 N/mm² plate yielding strength       

Condition: new, Shaft diameter: 30Upper Roll Diameter: 148Bottom Roll Diameter: 118working speed: 2-4motor power: 0,7 - 0,85length: 600width: 800weight approx.: 220heigth: 1450 Technical specifications: - Steel frame - Two bottom rolls are powered - Direct drive power system with gears - Top roll is idle ( free turning ) - Hardened rolls - Rolls shafts are special steel material hardened and ground - Double speed motor - Standard rolls - Adjustable guide rolls - Horizontal and vertical working position Options: - digital display EURO 858, -- Angular side guide rollers EURO 1,287, -- Double speed STANDARD Brake motor EURO 150, --                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PK 30 file TypeSizeMin. DiaNotes150x10        20x61800        300Standard Rolls280x15        30x6700        400Standard Rolls330x30        10x10900        200Standard Rolls4Ø 30        Ø 10900        200Optional Rolls5Ø 60x1,5        Ø 25x1,51000        600Optional Rolls61 1/2”x2,9        1/4”x1,8600        300Optional Rolls750x30x3        40x20x21200        800Optional Rolls840x3        30x21200        800Optional Rolls940x40x5        30x30x4600        300Optional Rolls1035x35x5        30x30x4600        400Optional Rolls1150x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls1250x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls1350x6        20x3600        400Standard Rolls         * Special washer (spacer) can be necessary / Only with special Beam Bending Attachment        •Capacities are given for 260 N/mm² plate yielding strength        Iodpfsd Eqq Aex Am Deih

Condition: new, sheet length: 1275sheet thickness: 1,5weight approx.: 0,225messurements (LxWxH): 1,5x0,8x1,2 Iisdpfsd Eqqvjx Am Doh

Condition: ready for operation (used), For sale: SHAANXI MACHINE TOOL WORKS M1432A universal cylindrical grinder, 1000 mm center distance. Technical specifications: Manufacturer: Shaanxi Machine Tool Works Type/Model: M1432A Center distance: 1000 mm Max. grinding diameter: 320 mm Center height: 180 mm External and internal grinding Power supply: 380 V / 3 phases / 50 Hz Connected power: 8 kVA Protection: 35 A Machine number: 177 Weight: approx. 5300 kg Operational. Ready for use. The price listed in the advertisement is the net price, to which VAT must be added. The machine can be viewed in Starachowice at ul. Kwiatkowskiego 13. Contact by phone from 7:00 AM to 3:00 PM. Iisdpsz Hu Dlefx Am Djh

Condition: new, sheet length: 1050sheet thickness: 1,0weight approx.: 0,185messurements (LxWxH): 1,4x0,7x1,12 Iodpfx Amjd Eqrpe Djih

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2005, operating hours: 3,648 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 625 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 650 mm, controller model: Siemens Sinumerik 840D, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range X-axis: 625 mm Travel range Y-axis: 650 mm Travel range Z-axis: 650 mm B-axis swivel range: 360° B-axis resolution: 0.001° B-axis speed: 100 rpm Spindle speed: 50–10,000 rpm Spindle power: 24 / 37 kW Spindle torque: 250 / 350 Nm Spindle operating hours: 3,648 h Tool interface: HSK-A63 according to DIN 69893 Number of pallets: 2 Pallet size: 500 × 400 mm Pallet load capacity: 400 kg Pallet change time: 8 / 5 s T-slots: according to DIN 55201 Magazine capacity: 60 Max. tool diameter: 80 mm Max. tool diameter with free adjacent slots: 160 mm Max. tool length: 350 mm Max. tool weight: 10 kg Max. total weight of tools: 200 kg MACHINE DETAILS Control system: Siemens Sinumerik 840D Iisdpfx Aez Izc Rem Deh Coolant tank volume: approx. 1,100 l Coolant pressure: 50 bar Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W): 5,800 x 4,800 mm Machine weight: 12,800 kg Total automatic operation: 32,099 h Total operating hours: 20,326 h Spindle hours: 3,648 h EQUIPMENT Pallet changer Chain magazine with 60 tool positions Knoll coolant unit with filter fleece Emulsion cooling inside and outside Renishaw measuring probe Tool breakage monitoring in the magazine Chip conveyor Sound enclosure Paper band filter Rinsing gun at the setup station Closed work area enclosure according to UVV Pallet sequence operation Network connection Ethernet interface Technical documentation Layout plan

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, Traverses XYZ: 762 x 508 x 508mm, 500mm x 500mm table, max table weight 300kg, table tilt +110°, -35°, Iiodpfx Asz Sqqmom Deh 22.4kW, 15000rpm, BT40, 40 station tool changer, Through spindle coolant, Tool Setter, Programmable coolant,

Condition: new, bending length: 1550sheet thickness: 1.2upper roll diameter: 70 Technical specifications: - Cast iron body - By manuel or motorised (optional) bending - Opening top roll to side after bending for taking out the material easily - Cone bending device - Movement of the back and bottom rolls up and down manually with hand wheel - Portable control panel in order to control material from required  locations with foot pedal  Iisdpfxsd Ab T Ij Am Djh - In acccordance with CE norms. Options: - Back roll with motor  - Digital readout for displaying position of the backroll - Body cover EURO 362,-- - Hardened rolls EURO 550,-- - Variable Speed of Rotation  We have many references!

Condition: new, bending length: 1050sheet thickness: 3.3upper roll diameter: 90 Technical specifications: - Cast iron body - By manuel or motorised (optional) bending - Opening top roll to side after bending for taking out the material easily - Cone bending device - Movement of the back and bottom rolls up and down manually with hand wheel - Portable control panel in order to control material from required  locations with foot pedal  - In acccordance with CE norms. Options: - Back roll with motor  Iioded Ab T Aepfx Am Djh - Digital readout for displaying position of the backroll - Body cover EURO 274,-- - Hardened rolls EURO 480,-- - Variable speed of Rotation  We have many references!

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1986, functionality: fully functional, Machine Name - Benelli 1000 Tonne press Machine Model - Automatic transfer press PMT/3d/1000/5/1000P Y.O.M 1986 (Retro-fitted 2015 by Helm) Description - 1000 ton SPM up to 26 Number of operational positions: 5 Iiodpfx Amjz Nhx Aj Deh Press bed 5000mm x 2000mm Main carriage 5100mm x 1400mm second carriage Lateral opening between columns: 2500 mm Voltage power supply: 415V; 50 Hz Shut height range 730mm- 1070 Light guards Schlechier decolier : Coils up to 10ton and 1.2m wide, ID 500mm OD 1500mm Can be seen underpower from site.