Used machining centers (vertical) X-axis travel 700-799mm for sale (229)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,660 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 760 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 660 mm, table load: 1,200 kg, rotational speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis: 1,660 mm Y-axis: 760 mm Z-axis: 660 mm Table size: 760 x 2,000 mm Max. table load: 1,200 kg Tool holder: SK 40 Tool changer: 2 x 24 Max. tool diameter: 80 mm Fjdpfjymw Nhsx Aa Eofw Max. tool diameter with adjacent pocket free: 110 mm Max. tool length: 350 mm Rapid traverse (X/Y/Z): 24 / 24 / 30 m/min MACHINE DETAILS Control: MAZATROL M-PLUS Dimensions & Weight Required space: approx. 6.0 x 4.0 x 3.5 m Machine weight: approx. 8.1 t Total power requirement: 32.8 kVA The machine has been serviced regularly.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 12,118 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 762 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 508 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 508 mm, rotary table diameter: 500 mm, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS X-Axis Travel: 762 mm Y-Axis Travel: 508 mm Z-Axis Travel: 508 mm Table Load: 300 kg Rotary Table Diameter: 500 mm Spindle Speed (max.): 12,000 rpm Spindle Motor Power: 22 kW Spindle Taper: BT40 Number of Tool Magazine Slots: 40 Fsdoypbhtopfx Aa Eefw MACHINE DETAILS CNC Control Manufacturer: HAAS Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 4,014 x 3,046 x 3,048 mm Weight: 6,500 kg Operating Hours Power-On Hours: 16,142 h Machining Hours: 12,118 h EQUIPMENT Central spindle cooling system 20 bar Filtration Chip conveyor Workpiece probe Tool probe Robot interface Automatic (side) door Portable handwheel Cleaning gun High-speed machining

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: 112745, travel distance X-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 360 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, controller model: BROTHER, spindle speed (max.): 16,000 rpm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Placing a bid obligates you to collect the item on time between 08/04/26 and 16/04/26! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X-axis: 700 mm Travel Y-axis: 360 mm Travel Z-axis: 560 mm Spindle speed: 16,000 rpm Number of tool changer positions: 14 Tool holder: BT 30 MACHINE DETAILS Control: BROTHER Operating voltage: 380 V Connection: 21.5 kVA Frequency: 50/60 Hz Dimensions & Weight L x W x H: 2200 x 1800 x 2400 mm Ffedpfoyk Hqvox Aa Eow Machine weight: 3 t EQUIPMENT Air monitoring Tool breakage control 4th axis (rotary and indexing table)

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: 112097, travel distance X-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 360 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, spindle speed (min.): 16,000 rpm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! Placing a bid obligates the buyer to collect the item on schedule between 08.04.26 and 16.04.26! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X-axis: 700 mm Travel Y-axis: 360 mm Travel Z-axis: 560 mm Spindle speed: 16,000 rpm Tool changer positions: 14 Tool holder: BT 30 MACHINE DETAILS Control: BROTHER Operating voltage: 380 V Connection: 21.5 kVA Frequency: 50/60 Hz Dimensions & Weight L x W x H: 2200 x 1800 x 2400 mm Machine weight: 3 t Ffedoyk Hbzspfx Aa Eow EQUIPMENT Air monitoring Tool breakage detection 4th axis (indexing and rotary table)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2016, operating hours: 39,293 h, Movement X-Axis Movement 711 mm Y-Axis Movement 406 mm Ffodjx D Dzwepfx Aa Eew Z-Axis Movement 394 mm This 3-axis HAAS DM-2 vertical machining center was manufactured in 2016. It features extensive use with 39,293 power-on hours, 11,081 cycle start hours, and 6,377 feed cutting hours. The machine offers a travel range of 711 mm on the X-axis, 406 mm on the Y-axis, and 394 mm on the Z-axis. Consider the opportunity to buy this HAAS DM-2 vertical machining center. Contact us for more information. Application Types Milling

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 28,446 h, Control Unit Brand FANUC Movement X-Axis Movement 762 mm Y-Axis Movement 516 mm Z-Axis Movement 570 mm This 3-axis DOOSAN VC 510 was manufactured in 2014. It features a twin pallet vertical machining center with a table size of 2 x 860 x 570mm, a maximum workpiece height of 520mm, and a spindle speed of 10,000rpm. It includes a 40 tool ATC, X-axis travel of 762mm, Y-axis travel of 516mm, and Z-axis travel of 570mm. Consider the opportunity to buy this DOOSAN VC 510 vertical machining center. Contact us for further details regarding this machine. Application Types Fedpfx Aaex D Dz Do Eefw Milling

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2021, General Data Machine weight 5260 kg Main Drive Spindle Speed 32000 RPM Spindle motor power 8000 kW Ffjdpfx Ajx Hbmloa Esw Movement X-Axis Movement 760 mm Z-Axis Movement 510 mm Y-Axis Movement 500 mm This 3-axis VICTORY VC F76 vertical machining center was manufactured in 2021. It features Fanuc Series Oi-MF Plus control, with axis traverses of X-760, Y-500, Z-510, and rapids at 32m/min. The table size is 840x500, supporting a 500 kg workload, and it includes a 24-tool magazine. Machine weight is 5260 kg. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities, consider the VICTORY VC F76 machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Application Types Milling

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2016, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 785 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 470 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 530 mm, table width: 500 mm, table length: 900 mm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, XYZ LPM Vertical Machining Centre Model: LPM Year: 2016 ‘X’ axis Travel: 785mm ‘Y’ axis Travel: 470mm ‘Z’ axis Travel: 530mm Table Size: 900 x 500mm Spindle Taper: BT 40 Fsdpfsyg N Aajx Aa Eofw Spindle Speeds: 8000 RPM Automatic Toolchanger: 16 station

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, travel distance X-axis: 1,270 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 508 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 635 mm, controller manufacturer: Haas, workpiece weight (max.): 1,588 kg, total height: 3,023 mm, total length: 4,089 mm, total width: 3,353 mm, rotational speed (min.): 40 rpm, rotational speed (max.): 8,100 rpm, overall weight: 6,033 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, CNC Vertical Machining Centre CNC Control Haas CNC Table size 1.321 x 457 mm Table load 1.588 kg Number of pallets: 1 x Movement X-axis 1.270 mm Movement Y-axis 508 mm Movement Z-axis 635 mm Spindle taper MAS BT40 Fsdpoytb Syefx Aa Eefw Spindle speed 40 - 8.100 1/min Spindle motor 22,4kW Magazin capacity 24 + 1 If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 26956, Specification Table size 914mm x 305mm X axis traverse 406mm Y axis traverse 305mm Z axis traverse 254mm Spindle BT 40 Spindle speeds 0-6000rpm Spindle motor 5.6kW Rapid feed rate 15.2m/min Toolchanger capacity 10 tools Approximate weight 1542kg   Machine equipped with:- Haas CNC Control System Coolant system Fodpewkrq Ajfx Aa Ejfw Lighting Enclosed guarding Manual

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1148877, Specification Table size 1016mm x 356mm X axis traverse 508mm Y axis traverse 406mm Z axis traverse 356mm Spindle BT40 Spindle speeds 0-10,000rpm Spindle motor 11.2kW Rapid feed rate 30.5m/min Toolchanger capacity 20 Tools Approximate weight 2313Kg Ffsdpex Afpgjfx Aa Ejw   Machine Equipped with Haas CNC Control High flow coolant system Lighting Enclosed guarding Manual

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1105876, SPECIFICATION Table size 914mm x 356mm Maximum table load 1316Kg X axis traverse 762mm Y axis traverse 406mm Z axis traverse 508mm Spindle BT40 Ffjdpfx Ajx Sq Sboa Eow Spindle speeds 0 -8,100rpm Spindle motor 14.9kW Rapid feed rate 25.4m/min Toolchanger capacity 24 + 1 tools Tool to toll time 2.8 seconds Approximate weight 3500Kg MACHINE EQUIPPED WITH: - Haas TRT 160 5 axis trunnion table (removable) Wireless intuitive probing system Remote jog handle Swarf auger High speed machining Programmable coolant nozzle Lighting Guarding Manual Feed cutting time 11,436 hours

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1125318, SPECIFICATION Travel X axis stroke 762mm Y axis stroke 406mm Z axis stroke 508mm Distance spindle nose to table 102-610mm Table Width 536mm Length 914mm Max. Weight on table 1361kg T Slots: width 16mm : pitch 125mm   SPECIFICATION Cont’d Spindle Taper size No.40 Speed 0-8100rpm Bearings Bearing lubrication Air/oil injection Cooling Liquid cooled Motor Ffedpowx I N Dofx Aa Esw Spindle motor, max. rating 22.4kW Feedrate Rapid X, Y & Z axis 25.4m/min Max. Cutting feedrate 16.5m/min Toolchanger Capacity 20 tools Type BT40 General Approximate machine weight 3750kg Air supply (min) 113lpm, 6.9 bar MACHINE EQUIPPED WITH: - Haas (Fanuc compatible) CNC Control system Programmable coolant nozzle Automatic lubrication system Enclosed guarding Swarf auger

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 016-018828-450, SPECIFICATION Table 914mm x 500mm X axis traverse 830mm Y axis traverse 530mm Z axis traverse 580mm Spindle nose to table 115-695mm Spindle BT40 Spindle speeds 0-10,000rpm Spindle motor 22.4kW Rapid feed rate 30m/min Toolchanger capacity 30 tools Approximate weight 5800Kg   Fodpfjxzqq Tox Aa Esfw MACHINE EQUIPPED WITH: - Siemens 828D CNC Control Renishaw probe 15 0ff BT40 toolholders Coolant system Lighting Guarding

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2023, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 23087A, SPECIFICATION Ffjdpfx Aajvntguo Esw Maximum grinding surface 140 x 300mm Distance between column and wheel axis 300mm Max.distance between table and wheel 280mm Rapid feed per turn of handwheel 2mm Micrometric feed by small handle 0.01mm Size of cup wheel 2.2kW Wheel speed 2840rpm Approximate weight 400kg MACHINE EQUIPPED WITH 260mm x 140mm x75mm (thickness) magnetic chuck Coolant system Guarding

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2015, Traverses XYZ: 762 x 508 x 508mm, 500mm Diameter table, max table weight 300kg, table tilt +120°, -35°, Ffedpfx Aokticxea Eow 22.4kW, 12000rpm, CT40, 40 station tool changer, coolant, Tool Setter, Programmable coolant, swarf conveyor,

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 730 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 510 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 510 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 50 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 50 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 40 m/min, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: 840D, workpiece height (max.): 450 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 300 kg, table width: 500 mm, table length: 500 mm, table load: 300 kg, rotary table diameter: 500 mm, rotational speed (max.): 1,200 rpm, overall weight: 12,400 kg, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, distance table to spindle center: 130 mm, spindle nose: HSK-A63, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 181, tool length: 300 mm, tool diameter: 125 mm, tool weight: 8,000 g, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, We acquired this machine in working condition directly from production—see the videos of the machine operating prior to disassembly! The Mori Seiki NMV 5000 DCG is a high-end (simultaneous) 5-axis machining center, designed for precision manufacturing in industries where complex geometries and exact tolerances are crucial. Included: - KNOLL FKA/500 band filter system + 3 filter rolls. Fedpfx Aoyq Emija Eefw - Filtermist FX5000 coolant mist extractor. - Renishaw OMP60 3D probe. - Chip conveyor - Spindle cooler - Original Mori Seiki tool holder block. - Original documentation + electrical diagrams. This Mori received a new spindle some time ago, which has only seen limited operating hours since. Report available!

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, The machining center has been inspected by a Hurco technician and found to be fully operational without any faults. Technical Data - Travel ranges: X 1,270 mm, Y 600 mm, Z 610 mm - Drive power: 30 kW - Spindle speed: 15,000 rpm - Spindle taper: SK 40 Type B - Feed rate: up to 23 m/min Work Table: - Dimensions: 1,500 mm x 660 mm - Max. workpiece weight: 1,300 kg Control: - Hurco Ultimax 4, incl. software for milling simulation - electronic hand control unit - Interfaces: RS 232C / V24 - 2 monitors for text and graphics processing - 2 software units for plain text and ISO programming Machine Construction: - High rigidity, suitable for roughing operations Tool Changer: - Double-arm changer with 24 stations Equipment: - Cooling unit for milling spindle - Rinsing system for chip removal - Splash guard cabin - Coolant system with filtration - Internal coolant supply ICS 20 bar - Chip conveyor Machine Data: - Required space (without service areas!) LxWxH approx. 4,750 mm x 3,120 mm x 2,950 mm - Weight approx. 9,000 kg - Connected load 50 kVA, 400V, 50/60 Hz Ffodpfxex Iikbo Aa Eew An inspection of the machine is possible by appointment. All tools and operating materials visible in the photos are not included in the scope of delivery. Technical changes and errors excepted.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 930 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 660 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 460 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 360 mm, controller manufacturer: Okuma, controller model: OSP P300MA + 3D kit, workpiece weight (max.): 350 kg, table width: 760 mm, table length: 460 mm, overall weight: 7,000 kg, spindle speed (max.): 20,000 rpm, operating hours of spindle: 930 h, spindle motor power: 15,000 W, spindle nose: HSKA63, number of slots in tool magazine: 20, type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, High precision Die/Mold vertical CNC, actively cooled frame & spindle. 0.1um control, 4 digits after the decimal point. Full options, including Renishaw, air on the spindle, laser measurement etc. See attached PDF for a detailed list including software options and accessoires! Cleaned and ready for installation. All checks allowed (at buyers expense, machine stored in warehouse, 380v available), we can ask Okuma to make a test report if required. Free loading on truck. Transport can also be arranged in the EU. As new condition, 930 hours on spindle, new 300.000 euro's, so a 125.000 saving on an as-new machine with Fodpfx Aajwzzrks Esfw

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, Machine Type: Fodpjyfmttefx Aa Eefw Vertical Machining Center (VMC) Travels X-axis: 1,270 mm (50") Y-axis: 508 mm (20") Z-axis: 635 mm (25") Table Table size: 1,321 × 495 mm (52" × 19.5") Max table load: 1,587 kg (3,500 lbs) T-slots: 5 slots, 16 mm Spindle Spindle taper: CAT 40 / BT40 Spindle speed: 8,100 rpm (optional 12,000 rpm) Spindle motor: 30 hp (22.4 kW) vector drive Drive type: Inline direct-drive Coolant Through Spindle (TSC): 300 psi (21 bar) standard for TSC version Tool Changer Automatic Tool Changer: 40 tools (side-mount ATC) Tool change time: ~2.8 sec (tool-to-tool) Max tool weight: 5.4 kg (12 lbs) Feedrates Rapid traverse: 25.4 m/min (1,000 ipm) Cutting feed: up to 16.5 m/min (650 ipm) Accuracy Positioning accuracy: ±0.005 mm Repeatability: ±0.0025 mm Control Control system: Haas CNC Control Memory: 1 GB Networking: Ethernet / USB Dimensions & Weight Machine weight: approx. 7,100 kg Footprint: approx. 4.1 × 2.8 m Height: approx. 3.1 m Electrical Power requirement: 208–240 / 360–480 V, 3-phase Air requirement: 6.9 bar (100 psi)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2023, An as new 2023 and hardly used, XYZ TMC 750 Toolroom VMC with RMX wide screen control, additionally specified with: Advance Features RMX, Tacking including retractable Electronic Handwheels, and DXF Converter - cost in excess of £50,000 + VAT when new! Specification: Working Area 743 x 425 x 489mm Table Size 830 x 410mm Spindle Centre to Column 500mm Spindle to Table 100 - 600mm Column Front to Table Centre 305 - 745mm Rapid Feedrate 20 M/min Cutting Feedrates 1 - 20,000 MM/min Max Table Load 500kg T Slot Size 16mm T Slot Number & Pitch 3 off @100mm Spindle Speeds 5 - 8,000 rpm Spindle Motor 11kW (15hp) Spindle Taper BT40 20 Station Carousel ATC Chip to Chip Tool Change Time 8 secs Max Tool Diameter 100mm Max Tool Weight 7kg Coolant Tank Capacity 125L Ballscrew (Grade C3) 32mm Dia P8 AC Servo Motor Max Torque X = 5 Nm / Y = 5 Nm / Z = 10 Nm Machine Weight 3,500kg Footprint 2,392 x 2,460 x 2,670m Fodpfxoyh Ixmo Aa Esfw

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, travel distance X-axis: 760 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 560 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, feed rate X-axis: 30,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, total height: 2,450 mm, total length: 5,200 mm, total width: 4,500 mm, table width: 500 mm, table length: 630 mm, table load: 300 kg, overall weight: 12,000 kg, 5-axis CNC machine (VMC) DECKEL MAHO - DMC 60T MACH-ID 9443 Make: DECKEL MAHO Type: DMC 60T Control: HeidenHain iTNC530 Year: 2005 € 12.500,00 X - Travel: 760mm Y - Travel: 560mm Z - Travel: 560mm A - Axis: 360000° B - Axis: - 30 to + 120° Table Length: 630mm Table Width: 500mm Table load: 300 Feed rate X-Axis: 30000mm/min. Feed rate Y-Axis: 30000mm/min. Ffjdpfxeym R Tgo Aa Ejw Feed rate Z-Axis: 30000mm/min. Spindle Taper: 40ISO/Bt/Mk Power on spindle: 26kW Speeds / ranges: 18000Rpm ATC / revolver: 30 Coolant through spindle / Bar:15 Number of controlled axis: 5 Chip conveyor: Yes Coolantsystem: Yes Length: 5200mm Width: 4500mm Height: 2450mm Weight: 12000kg Please Note: The information on this page has been obtained to the best of our ability and belief, and from the manufacturers where possible. It is given in good faith, but its accuracy can not be guaranteed. Accordingly, it will not form a representation or constitute contractual terms. We advise you to check any vital details!

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, travel distance X-axis: 750 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, controller manufacturer: HAAS, total height: 2,700 mm, total width: 2,400 mm, table load: 700 kg, overall weight: 5,000 kg, spindle speed (max.): 7,500 rpm, product length (max.): 2,400 mm, number of axes: 4, This 4-axis HAAS VCE 750 was manufactured in 2001. It features an X-axis travel of 750 mm, Y-axis travel of 400 mm, and Z-axis travel of 500 mm. The machine includes a table size of approximately 900 x 350 mm and a maximum table load of 700 kg. If you are looking to get high-quality machining capabilities, consider the HAAS VCE 750 vertical machining centre we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Table size: approx. 900 × 350 mm • Tool magazine: 20 positions (carousel) • Included options: 4th axis; through-spindle cooling Fjdpfx Aaoytqvhe Esfw Technical Specification Taper Size ISO 40

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2004, operating hours: 6,679 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: H-30459, travel distance X-axis: 760 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 510 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 610 mm, total height: 2,800 mm, total length: 3,200 mm, total width: 2,200 mm, table width: 510 mm, table length: 1,020 mm, table load: 1,000 kg, overall weight: 4,700 kg, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, Equipment: documentation/manual, HURCO VMX 30 Vertical Machining Center - Spindle nose to clamping table: 152 – 762 mm - Table T-slots (DIN 650): 5 - For further technical data, see photos Fedpfxoytny Ds Aa Eefw - With technical documentation - Important note: The machine vices visible on the work table are not included in the scope of supply! - A tool holder package is included in the delivery. Attention: The item must be collected bindingly between 27.04. and 30.04.2026 on a date to be agreed. FCA D-39126 Magdeburg – loaded onto truck

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2020, travel distance X-axis: 762 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 508 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 508 mm, controller manufacturer: HAAS, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 22,400 W, This 5-axis HAAS VF 2 SS YT vertical machining center was manufactured in 2020. Ideal for precision machining, it offers robust construction and advanced control technology. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities, consider the HAAS VF 2 SS YT machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Additional equipment • Type: Side-Mount (SMTC)/ Capacity: 30+1/ Max Tool Diameter (full): 64 mm/ Max Tool Diameter (adjacent empty): 127 mm/ Max Tool Length: 279 mm /Max Tool Weight: 5.0 kg • Tool-to-Tool (avg): 1.80 s/ Chip-to-Chip (avg): 2.40 s • Included: HRT210 Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits Ffsdpfjyaix Uex Aa Eew • Torque: 122 nm at 2000 rpm • Drive system: inline direct-drive • Taper: bt40 / ct40 / hsk-a63 • Lubrication: air/oil injection/cooling: liquid-cooled • Max cutting feedrate: 21. 2 m/min / rapids on x, y, z-axis: 35. 6 m/min • Coolant tank capacity: 208 l / through-spindle coolant pressure: 21 bar / through-tool air blast: yes / chip auger: yes / chip tray filter kit: yes / window air blast: yes / coolant pump: multi-stage • Air consumption: 113 l/min at 6. 9 bar / minimum air pressure: 5. 5 bar / air hose connection: 3/8 in • Standard interface: ethernet and wifi / control memory: 1 gb / remote monitoring: haasconnect / high-speed machining: included / advanced tool management: included /media display (m130): included / power failure detection: included /safe run function: included / rigid tapping: included